docv
Don Juan
he meant if you are a good looking guy who doesnt make much compared to decent looking guy who makes bank - the woman will usually go for the guy with the $$$
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
couldnt have said it better myself.joekerr31 said:now, keeping women? TOTALLY different story. if a woman likes your looks and personality and then finds out that you financial doing well, you'll have to call the fire department to bring the jaws of life to get her mouth off your c*ck.
I know exactly what you mean when you use the word “chase” but it sets the wrong tone.squirrels said:Dealing with existing relationships. It drives me nuts when, for example, my sister throws a party and there are 2 or 3 good-looking girls I'd LOVE to boink, and I'd LOVE to run game on them, but they ALL have boyfriends!
Once you hit that age, all the girls's friends have boyfriends, so they all have to be dating SOMEONE or they can't hang out with their non-single friends any more.
And I know that boundary can be utterly disrespected. I have before in the past. But with people you KNOW, that can backfire on you real quick. I feel like I'm literally biting my tongue and stuffing my hands in my pockets just to avoid taking a shot at a "taken" girl.
And the thing is, these girls...they really want to get around, but THEY'RE bound into respecting an existing relationship. They get into it just to have company and for social reasons, but then end up having to respect that relationship as if it WAS a romance. I KNOW that at least SOME of these girls would rather be with me...but to break up with someone for someone else is the HEIGHT of impropriety for them.
Fvck...to just find some people who aren't bound to bullsh!t relationships by society. Hell, I can't even go to the bar any more without running into girls who are married/engaged/have boyfriends. WTF are you doing out in a place like THIS if you're not SINGLE? If I had someone I was steady with, I would be doing all KINDS of fun things with them...there are SO many opportunities in that lifestyle and here you are out getting drunk in some slutty outfit getting hit on by guys you don't even WANT??
Heh...just venting. This BS needs to stop.
Rudra said:Bonhomme, didnt get your point, explain plz. Average or above average pic plus good income (50k would be almost two times the average income in the US). You will have broads all over you.. whats the point? You could make a point by posting a bUtt ugly pic and a real good income... or didnt I get you?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
grinder said:<snip>
Our job is to be that better man.
That's why guys who do not make a lot of money and don't have really great pics should concentrate on meeting women in person.2. Girls list qualifiers they want in a guy, yet they always seem to end up with the guy who doesn't even have the majority of the qualifiers in their list (ie: height, money, looks, age, hugely popular, etc.)
I agree. I remember when I was 15 or so, my gang somehow got involved with a gang of 13 y.o.'s There was one girl who was known to pretty slutty around the previous set of boys, but when she was with us, she was not slutty. It seems that those boys were of a lower class, and she got into our crowd, she didn't want to be slutty so that she would appeal to us more (or something like that.) Back then, I would have loved to be getting bluw jobs from her. :woo:Bonhomme said:Being perceived as having too much quality can actually be a negative for FB/fling purposes.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I know this. The question is, when you're in a group of people who are almost all BF/GF couples, how do you overcome the social stigma? Especially people you have to see again?Rollo Tomassi said:SQUIRRELS, if there's no ring a girl's finger she's available. I can't count the number of times I tapped the "I have a boyfriend" girl (sometimes the night we met) when I was in my 20's. That may sound unethical, but too many guys limit themselves in this respect as a defense against rejection; "hey, what was I gonna do, she has a boyfriend?" It's an easy out for not trying rooted in a fear of rejection.
On the occasions when I hooked up with the "taken" girl, in every situation the girl had voluntarily put herself into the appearance and attitude of being single and 'happened' to be in the club, at the party, at the gig, with the Girls Night Out girls where I met her. Women don't accidentally wander into environments like this when their LTRs are so satisfying. Women want to fukk, you just have to be the guy they want to fukk and no BF is going to stop her doing what she already wants to do. She may convince herself that she "doesn't usually do this" or she was "drunk and he was cute so things kinda happened,.." the next morning, but the behavior belies the intent. And the behavior happens with such regularity it becomes predictable. So stop limiting yourself and be the guy she "just couldn't help herself" around.
Haha.....the last chick I dated was 33, and was on her second strike for flying off the handle over seeing me interact with other (mainly younger) women.bigjohnson said:The toughest part is that once they cross that magical line around 27-30 they are interested in a "relationship", which is woman code for "my pull date is rushing up and my bio-clock tick sounds like Def Leppards drummer. Marry me NOW".
You can't get disentangled to save your life. If guys acted like 30 year old women do we'd have restraining orders on us.
docv said:i find the hardest thing about dating as i get older is the fact that i have so much money. when i was young and poor and in a relationship or meeting girls it was about nothing more then the time we spent together.
now that i have money $hit is compicated. you get to thinking if the girl really likes you for who you are or what you are and how much money you have.
its kinda lame but thats just how it goes. i guess it would make sense to meet a chic who has a great career who already has money.. but that limits my spectrum of datable chics by huge proportions.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
squirrels said:And the biggest PITA is running into a girl who says, "Oh, I was just engaged three weeks ago, I broke up with my fiancee"...then you know you're stuck in rebound-land...she's either gonna want an insta-replacement or she's going to stay disconnected forever.