"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You know "bad boys" have the best attitude in regards to women.

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You see with "bad boys" they often say what the hell they want, and they do what they want and don't give a **** about the outcome.

It's as if they act as though they have nothing to lose atall and probally have such a fun life with an attitude like that don't you think guy's?.

I'm starting to see why this is THE BEST way to be.Take a small example from an old profile on POF i made ... i remade it and basically said EXACTLY what i thought of women and called them out.

I've had countless replies ...

It's as if the **** infront of my eyes is being lifted!

Guy's if your like me and have had your share of *****es, is'nt it time we called it a day and started to have "FUN" ???
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Demonicale said:
You see with "bad boys" they often say what the hell they want, and they do what they want and don't give a **** about the outcome.

It's as if they act as though they have nothing to lose atall and probally have such a fun life with an attitude like that don't you think guy's?.

I'm starting to see why this is THE BEST way to be.Take a small example from an old profile on POF i made ... i remade it and basically said EXACTLY what i thought of women and called them out.

I've had countless replies ...

It's as if the **** infront of my eyes is being lifted!

Guy's if your like me and have had your share of *****es, is'nt it time we called it a day and started to have "FUN" ???
what did your old profile say?
 

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Ease said:
what did your old profile say?

Oh right, my old profile was what i call the "cliche" profile.

Basically it was just saying stuff like, i'm Rich,27 etc ... my hobbiues are ... blah blah ... and went onto say how i want a nice girl.

just recalling what i had before makes me cringe!

Lucifero - Your right, i'm working at doing that ... it comes a time where you just get sick of acting lol
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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There's two sides to the "bad boy" story.

They can act as though they have nothing to lose because they actually have nothing to lose; they are already losers.

Anyone can dress like a punk, cop an attitude, and adopt a devil may care mentality.

How many of these "bad boys" do you see sitting in corporate boardrooms, creating profound wealth, obtaining the respect and admiration of others, and generally contributing to society? The bad boy has a useless life and leads a meaningless existence.

You don't have to be a loser bad boy to be confident in yourself.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
There's two sides to the "bad boy" story.

They can act as though they have nothing to lose because they actually have nothing to lose; they are already losers.

Anyone can dress like a punk, cop an attitude, and adopt a devil may care mentality.

How many of these "bad boys" do you see sitting in corporate boardrooms, creating profound wealth, obtaining the respect and admiration of others, and generally contributing to society? The bad boy has a useless life and leads a meaningless existence.

You don't have to be a loser bad boy to be confident in yourself.
whats with all the hate towards bad boys?
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
There's two sides to the "bad boy" story.

They can act as though they have nothing to lose because they actually have nothing to lose; they are already losers.

Anyone can dress like a punk, cop an attitude, and adopt a devil may care mentality.

How many of these "bad boys" do you see sitting in corporate boardrooms, creating profound wealth, obtaining the respect and admiration of others, and generally contributing to society? The bad boy has a useless life and leads a meaningless existence.

You don't have to be a loser bad boy to be confident in yourself.
I agree with this so much... just because i can relate. I almost became one of those losers.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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whats with all the hate towards bad boys?
I think the problem is so many pickup sites try to oversell the whole bad boy thing. Julius Siezeher has a point. Do you see the bad boy going on to become a success? In some cases he may, but that's probably the exception rather than the rule. Do you really think the bad boy is the best role model we can find to follow? Something stinks in here if that's the case, we can do better.

Even the pickup sites (after they hook you) tell you don't be the bad boy, be the good guy with confidence. Which sounds a bit like a cop out to me. Either you should be the bad boy or you shouldn't. Which is it?
 

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teacha said:
whats with all the hate towards bad boys?
It's because he is a ****weed with no balls.

We were talking about being a "bad" boy in the sense of doing your on thing regardless of what others think and that fool started giving a parental lecture. What a moran. :kick:
 

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Tell me Julius Siezeher or Zekko, who gave you the right to define what is success or failure in life for me? :kick:

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For five years, even in my absence, I have been attacked for looking for yourself for structure in the world.

When you were young, your parents and friends gave you structure of the world. You knew your role of going to school, of escorting a girl to the prom, doing your chores, doing your work, and so on. After school, you are cast out into the world. What structure should you have?

Obviously, 98% of the males and probably 99.5% of the females look for an external voice for structure. Females follow their mother. If they have no maternal figure in their lives, they adopt what society (media) tell them.

What is success? It is love. Not love for chivalrous relationship (Nice Guy), not love for pu$$y (Citizen Dildo), not love for money (Materialist), and not love for glory (Shining Star). It is the genuine love for life. Find what you love and direct your passions to it. You will know you have found the right mate not because you two love the same hobbies, but because you both love the direction you (and she) are going in life.

If you want to live your life working for money, or being nice to women, or working for pu$$y, or being praised by society, then don't be afraid to go ahead. All life is an experiment. I could be wrong. But I am not wrong about myself. I hope you do not choose a path that is wrong for you and your soul. When it is wrong, you will know. Imagine how Jesus would feel if he was cast to play the role of Napoleon. The result is the divided soul which is a classical subject in many works, most chiefly Hamlet (a good natured artistic youth cast in the role of savage revenge by the father? How many families want their offspring to play a role they are not suited for?)

What if we make our own structure, completely independent of feminine praise? What if we follow OUR dreams instead of women's dreams? What if the truly smart were not those who read lots of books but those who could read their own heart and soul?

Five years I have been off and on this forum. Five years, the same dull dreary mug-wump sayings have been cast at me. I could copy and paste what was talked about me five years ago as it will match the same as today. What are my 'themes' that cause the same old sayings (and when misplaced, its praises)?

You are the focus of your world. Not the women. Instead of pissing away your youth trying to 'please' women, why not invest that time in yourself? Such a radical concept! How dare I speak blasphemy to our Female Goddesses the youth sacrifice their lives to.

Sex does not make you unique. Another radical concept! Because sex is what women have recognized to give often as 'feminine praise'. How many men think they are the glory of the world because of sex?

Live the life YOU want.
 

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Following your passions is great, but a life devoid of companionship can be miserable. There are a lot of sad, lonely men out there who just want to be loved and appreciated.
 

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teacha said:
Tell me Julius Siezeher or Zekko, who gave you the right to define what is success or failure in life for me?
I certainly have no interest in defining success in your life, or anyone else's. I have my hands full with my own. If your goal in life is to be considered a bad boy, go right ahead. There is a certain appeal in that for women, I can't deny that. I just thought that Julius Siezeher had a point, and I was trying to elaborate on it.

Lucifero said:
We were talking about being a "bad" boy in the sense of doing your on thing regardless of what others think and that fool started giving a parental lecture.
Being strong minded and independent is not necessarily synonymous with the term "bad boy". The problem with the pickup industry is that they have glamourized this term, and everyone that buys into this idea twists it around into meaning whatever they want it to mean.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Lucifero said:
It's because he is a ****weed with no balls.

We were talking about being a "bad" boy in the sense of doing your on thing regardless of what others think and that fool started giving a parental lecture. What a moran. :kick:
I was at Fallujah with 1st Marines you c0cksvcker, you'll never be half the man I am.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
I was at Fallujah with 1st Marines you c0cksvcker, you'll never be half the man I am.
ha! you were fooled into going into anothers man land for others peoples interest(corporate) . you are a pawn. you aint no man. you gave up that label when you signed up for the military. giving away your critical thinking and agree to follow whatever order your higher up give you. you are a subhuman.:yes:
 
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Julius_Seizeher said:
There's two sides to the "bad boy" story.

They can act as though they have nothing to lose because they actually have nothing to lose; they are already losers.

Anyone can dress like a punk, cop an attitude, and adopt a devil may care mentality.

How many of these "bad boys" do you see sitting in corporate boardrooms, creating profound wealth, obtaining the respect and admiration of others, and generally contributing to society? The bad boy has a useless life and leads a meaningless existence.

You don't have to be a loser bad boy to be confident in yourself.
Julius, no offense but doens't the thread title clearly say "in regards to women." ?? We're not talking about how well the bad boy makes it career-wise, or anything else like that we're talking about how they **** tons of girls. It isn't wrong to worship only certain aspects of peoples behavior, in my opinion.


Take the African hunter for instance, vs the Astro Physicist or something similar. I'm sure you've heard this before, but most people would take a tour around Africa with the native, rather than the Astro Physicist despite the native probably having a lower IQ
 

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Julius, no offense but doens't the thread title clearly say "in regards to women." ?? We're not talking about how well the bad boy makes it career-wise, or anything else like that we're talking about how they **** tons of girls. It isn't wrong to worship only certain aspects of peoples behavior, in my opinion.
This is all true. But didn't Pook say the focus should be on you? That it wasn't all about women? Isn't it a major concept of this forum that you should be improving yourself as a male, and that if you reach your potential then the women part will take care of itself? So I don't see any problem with Julius looking at the bigger picture. I thought that was what this forum was all about.

It's one thing to take the favorable characteristics of a bad boy and try to emulate them. It's another thing to aspire to be a bad boy. I've never cared for the term "bad boy". First off, he is bad, which is inherently negative. Secondly, he is a boy, not a man, so he is immature. What most guys aspire to be here are "DJs". A DJ does not = being a bad boy.
 

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zekko said:
This is all true. But didn't Pook say the focus should be on you? That it wasn't all about women? Isn't it a major concept of this forum that you should be improving yourself as a male, and that if you reach your potential then the women part will take care of itself? So I don't see any problem with Julius looking at the bigger picture. I thought that was what this forum was all about.
seriously, you don't see a problem with julius opinions?!

Julius_Seizeher said:
How many of these "bad boys" do you see sitting in corporate boardrooms, creating profound wealth, obtaining the respect and admiration of others, and generally contributing to society? The bad boy has a useless life and leads a meaningless existence.
how about now? Just because someone decides to take a different path to Julius own path in life doesn't automatically equate to failure and a meaninless existence for that person. Not everyone wants to spend their life working for money or being praised by society. Again, who gave him the right to be able to define what's success or failure in our own lives? Who gave him the right to write my own book of life?

zekko said:
It's one thing to take the favorable characteristics of a bad boy and try to emulate them. It's another thing to aspire to be a bad boy. I've never cared for the term "bad boy". First off, he is bad, which is inherently negative. Secondly, he is a boy, not a man, so he is immature. What most guys aspire to be here are "DJs". A DJ does not = being a bad boy.
you do realise most people's definition of a man is different to yours right? To each his own.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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