"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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YOU guys SUCK major balls!

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Title is misleading title.

So I recently decided to experiment with POF. Kinda like what Desdinova did with his girlfriend. I made one of a hot chick with a 10 body, I hadn't even finished the profile and already had 5 messages from these beta AFC's. I even had one guy reply bac again saying sorry for having such a sh!tty pick up line.

I think the average PUA who plays WoW has a better advantage and a leg over the average dude outside of the community, because seriously, these guys are terrible. No wonder girls are so picky and quick to reject. I'm really amazed at some of the crap I'm reading.

I don't care what anybody says here, if you're in the community, whether you STILL suck with women, novice, intimediate or expert Pick-Up-Artist, you have a LEG-OVER most non-community men.

I would definetly suggest Pick Up with a well-rounded initiative of your own game with online game. Half of these dudes have put the same title with the same messages, all seeking the approval of a chick.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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LOL.

I wonder if I can make a few quick bucks from these losers. I'm replying to one guy who has an awesome jacket, I'm gonna ask him where he got it from. So this is not all counter-productive. Lols were had.
 

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Yeah, haha, I made one, used lipsum text(fake text, not even real words, looks latin) and just a very generic somewhat blurry pic of a chick in a beanie, not even a 10, probably a 6 and I got several messages right away. MOst not even special.

I think online dating is a waste, PUA or not. Its easier to meet women in person in my opinion.
 

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Borknagar said:
Yeah, haha, I made one, used lipsum text(fake text, not even real words, looks latin) and just a very generic somewhat blurry pic of a chick in a beanie, not even a 10, probably a 6 and I got several messages right away. MOst not even special.

I think online dating is a waste, PUA or not. Its easier to meet women in person in my opinion.
I agree to an extent. I should just wipe off all the text in the 'About Me' section. Seriously though, the average PUA follower using routines is a notch above these typical betas. Online dating is all good if you use it right, I've got like 50% of my lays from various websites, do I prefer to meet women in real life? Most definetely.
 

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Yeah me too, but it's much more entertaining meeting women in person, online, not so much. PLus POF is flooded with single mothers and women with borderline personality disorder, or something else, not my cup of tea.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Thought about making a profile on OkCupid to check out the competition and source some information.

This is a great idea.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
Thought about making a profile on OkCupid to check out the competition and source some information.

This is a great idea.
Yes, worth doing for a look.

I set one up once to see what happened.

Did a google search for "cute girl" to get a pic, set up a profile with the picture and basically nothing else and watched the e-mails roll in.

Worth doing once to see:

* What any attractive women on online dating is subjected to
* How to differentiate yourself from the rest of the crowd.

Personally, I don't waste time sending e-mails online mostly and generally wait for girls to contact me. Then their interest is probably higher.

Reactivated my POF profile a few days ago and within a day, had 2 messages from girls and after a bit of chat got their numbers (this excludes other chaff who didn't meet my standards).

Can't do anything with them atm because I'm away visiting family in another place until next week...
 

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Borknagar said:
Yeah me too, but it's much more entertaining meeting women in person, online, not so much. PLus POF is flooded with single mothers and women with borderline personality disorder, or something else, not my cup of tea.
Maybe some kind of test needs to be run?

I like to use things like:

"So do you know who this Sarah Pailin chick is? I see her on the news alot." Or "I heard that this major event happened recently, have you heard anything about it?" If they know, chances are I'm dealing with a person who's well informed.

Or

"So I was watching this movie (something a little more artsy and deep, but fairly popular). What do you think about that movie?" Chances are, the person I'm talking to is a little more cultured and has a better taste in movies than most.

I'm sure there is some kind of giveaway for BPD chicks and single moms.
 

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HA! I tried it as well, in 15 minutes got 10 messages, including one guy inviting me to a new year eve party. Man those messages are sad
 
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