"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
you can bash me all you want
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
TheInfamousCBear
Master Don Juan
Honestly, I think all the hate comes from dudes not knowing how to screen women out...Men look at broads and if they think the girl is hot, they will try and get at her regardless of whatever problems or incompatablities (sp?) they have and they get burned...Then they keep doing this and they get mad when they keep getting burned, so then they start hating women...I used to do the same thing years ago, but now Im better at screening them so if I think a girl is fukked up in the head or does sh1t I dont like, Im not gonna even bother with her...Of course I dont look at girls who are busted, but I dont need a dimepice only though, I look at the whole package...Alot of guys want dimes to boost their own ego anyway, as if most people's opinion matters anyway...
tseluca
Don Juan
actualy sweat of anykind is an attraction, it is filled with phermones
tseluca
Don Juan
Guys come in many sapes sizes and colors, as do women and belive it or not you guys ranlk on the HB sacle too, so looks do matter
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
i took the time to read through all the posts that you made and i just can't figure out what your bolives are. what is is that bothers you about this forum and the stuff on here. I just don't see your beef
feel free to share it with us.
what is is it that a gurl (you) can teach me about women that YEARS of trial and error and years of analisis buy some of the smartest guys couldn't do.
please do make a new thread and set us strait
feel free to share it with us. what is is it that a gurl (you) can teach me about women that YEARS of trial and error and years of analisis buy some of the smartest guys couldn't do.
please do make a new thread and set us strait
tseluca
Don Juan
The beauty of being a woman is we can go out and do that anytime we want, and we dont have to resort to sill antics to get it
tseluca
Don Juan
spider. your whole theroy is flawed
Taking dating advice from a man about woman is like taking diet advice from fat people.
Women dont ask other women what men want. These so called experts are just after your $$$$$$$
If women don't know what they want, how the hell would men know what women want.
I started out on this board with good intentions, I was giving genuine advice trying toi hhelp out. Read all my threads, not just this topic. But some idiots feel the need to bash me, so I started this one
Taking dating advice from a man about woman is like taking diet advice from fat people.
Women dont ask other women what men want. These so called experts are just after your $$$$$$$
If women don't know what they want, how the hell would men know what women want.
I started out on this board with good intentions, I was giving genuine advice trying toi hhelp out. Read all my threads, not just this topic. But some idiots feel the need to bash me, so I started this one
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
spider_007
Master Don Juan
.....and you still haven't told me what it is that women want.
this is the second time i'm asking, please do set us straight what is it that we are getting so therebly wrong
ps. i didn't spend a dime on this stuff
this is the second time i'm asking, please do set us straight
what is it that we are getting so therebly wrongps. i didn't spend a dime on this stuff
tseluca
Don Juan
I ca walk into any bar at any given night and leave what whatever man I choose, he doesn't have to say a word.
If I wanted to I could walk up to some guy take him by the hand and say come on 10 times out of 10 he will follow me, no questions asked
Yes, I choose who I date
If I wanted to I could walk up to some guy take him by the hand and say come on 10 times out of 10 he will follow me, no questions asked
Yes, I choose who I date
tseluca
Don Juan
spider if you really read all my posts, I answered that question before
Maybe you don't pay enough attention, It is here somewhere in one of the other threads..Look and ye shall find
Maybe you don't pay enough attention, It is here somewhere in one of the other threads..Look and ye shall find
spider_007
Master Don Juan
excuse my incompetance
please point me in the right post
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=452173
i really looked and i just can't seem to find where you told us what women want,
please point me in the right post
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=452173
i really looked and i just can't seem to find where you told us what women want,
Desdinova
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Because men will actually study the behaviors of women and form conclusions. If nobody studied anything, we'd still be cavemen, and I'd club you on the head, drag you back to the cave, and get you to make me dinner
Also, I'm not trying to bash you. I'm enjoying this debate.
You're one of the few women who will do this. Most of them don't. They leave it up to the men to make the first move. Unfortunately, most men will have no confidence, thus never make the first move.
When I originally came to this site, I had absolutely no clue on how to approach women, let alone the balls to do it. After reading the DJ bible and putting my new found knowledge to work, I got better and better with picking up women and dating them. I eventually came to a point where I could literally choose which women I wanted to date. That's when I got picky with the women I dated.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Disconnect
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My pic is in the dark room. Once it's done, we'll swap. Actually, let's up the stakes and make them naked .
As for woman bashing, realise that in many men it's simply a byproduct of being frustrated and rejected so many times in the past. It's like the college kid who gets cut from the football team, drops out, and blames the coach for all of his problems. Or the guy who sues the company because his rectal thermometer awakened previously dormant homosexual feelings. People have a way of blaming everything around them for their problems. After all, it's easier on the ego that way. Talk about weak character.
I realize that women are inherently different from me, but that's no reason to hate them. Sure, I do my share of bashing feminazis, politically correct secretaries, and women with cankles. but no more than manginas (feminist men) and the male fatass lards. In other words, it's the person's ideas viewpoints and lifestyle, rather than gender, that deserves the bashing. If you choose to be an airhead, you'll get ridiculed for being an airhead, and not a woman.
More later.
.As for woman bashing, realise that in many men it's simply a byproduct of being frustrated and rejected so many times in the past. It's like the college kid who gets cut from the football team, drops out, and blames the coach for all of his problems. Or the guy who sues the company because his rectal thermometer awakened previously dormant homosexual feelings. People have a way of blaming everything around them for their problems. After all, it's easier on the ego that way. Talk about weak character
.I realize that women are inherently different from me, but that's no reason to hate them. Sure, I do my share of bashing feminazis, politically correct secretaries, and women with cankles. but no more than manginas (feminist men) and the male fatass lards. In other words, it's the person's ideas viewpoints and lifestyle, rather than gender, that deserves the bashing. If you choose to be an airhead, you'll get ridiculed for being an airhead, and not a woman.
More later.
tseluca
Don Juan
Well lets see are you doing good
Answer these questions for yourself
How many girls have I dated in the past 6 months?
How many girls did I approach in the last 6 months?
Divide one by the other and get you sucess rate. Is it high or low
Of the girls that I dated, how many went past 1 date?
2 dates?
3 dates?
Why did each of theit end?
Answer these questions for yourself
How many girls have I dated in the past 6 months?
How many girls did I approach in the last 6 months?
Divide one by the other and get you sucess rate. Is it high or low
Of the girls that I dated, how many went past 1 date?
2 dates?
3 dates?
Why did each of theit end?
Whoa, bash you? You are coming in and calling others pencil penis and what not. I don't even see anything really constructive in your arguments other than a weak assertation.
I keep fit and eat well because I want to. I don't want expensive medical bills to stack up on me when I am older. Some of our workout routines is based on the goals of athleticism (a variety of martial arts and sports), not just beach muscles. A built body is a byproduct of this.
I spend money so I can live in a nice and comfortable environment. Or even own properties in other parts of the world so I can spend time there. Who wouldn't want that, GUY OR GIRL? In the end girls spend more than guys on fashion to impress the opposite (or the same) gender anyways. A lot of us manage to have the girl split or pay entire bills as well.
Sooner or later, a sex is not enough for some guys. They can get it anywhere at anytime with some work. Other things count, don't expect all guys to treat you like daddy's little princess, break their back to support the relationship and you don't have anything to offer other than (to quote you):
Not all guys are clueless sheeps. If you don't stack up, you get NEXT right on the spot. You could be a 9 or 10 for that matter, but if that is all you can and willing to offer, **** that. There are thousands of other willing girls who are up for game.
I keep fit and eat well because I want to. I don't want expensive medical bills to stack up on me when I am older. Some of our workout routines is based on the goals of athleticism (a variety of martial arts and sports), not just beach muscles. A built body is a byproduct of this.
I spend money so I can live in a nice and comfortable environment. Or even own properties in other parts of the world so I can spend time there. Who wouldn't want that, GUY OR GIRL? In the end girls spend more than guys on fashion to impress the opposite (or the same) gender anyways. A lot of us manage to have the girl split or pay entire bills as well.
Sooner or later, a sex is not enough for some guys. They can get it anywhere at anytime with some work. Other things count, don't expect all guys to treat you like daddy's little princess, break their back to support the relationship and you don't have anything to offer other than (to quote you):
Is it any wonder more guys are becoming weary of marriage - especially with the way laws are developed and how useless prenups are nowadays (in North American at least)? If all you can offer is that, even a prostitute gives a more fair transaction than that.
Not all guys are clueless sheeps. If you don't stack up, you get NEXT right on the spot. You could be a 9 or 10 for that matter, but if that is all you can and willing to offer, **** that. There are thousands of other willing girls who are up for game.
tseluca
Don Juan
Disconnect, no problem, send me your email address I will send the first pic, and the more daring you get I will.
I have no quams about that
Only question is are you a man of your word. I think not
I have no quams about that
Only question is are you a man of your word. I think not
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.