I remember you posted a picture, you have that square jaw look going on - and above average in terms of looks. If it makes you more comfortable my buddy is 5'6'' he gets a girl whenever he feels like it, but you will still say the same thing.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Yo Height DOES Matter
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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WUTANG IS RIGHT!lildevil said:
With bad looks and bad height you'll never even MAKE it to the door unless you have vast amounts of wealth and/or popularity.
However, height does NOT affect fighting ability, to an extent, so some of Wu-tang's articles are total bullshyt. Once you get above a certain height, it becomes insanely easy to take out someone from their legs...muay thai fighters have shots that go for leg muscles and can really hurt.
Yeah of course keep spewing "this friend" and "that friend" who is short and still pulls chicks.
There are always exceptions, but the majority of women want a tall person.
As a side note, krazy, maybe your short friend has been pulling chicks because no other guy, including yourself, has MANNED up and gave him some competition.
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Wutang, I am really disappointed in you.
You aren't getting women because your ATTITUDE SUCKS BALLS.
And that is it.
You aren't getting women because your ATTITUDE SUCKS BALLS.
And that is it.
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You guys are so gay with all threads like this. Just recently I've really been sorting any inner game issues out, and my frame now in interactions with anyone is ROCK SOLID; complete 100% confidence....and I'm doing better with girls than I have ever done in the past. Even though I look the same.
You really are missing the bigger picture if you actually think s.hit like height and race or whatever else matters. Sure, there's a few girls who won't sleep with you if you're under a certain height - but these girls are generally the most insecure, and would be crap in bed anyway, AND they'd make you work so hard for it!! So you're doing yourself a favour.
I think anyone who is agreeing with the idea of this thread doesn't have their sh.it sorted out, and I pity you. Its really up to you to sort it out though, no-one can tell you how.
PS: Shoes with bigger soles won't solve the problem (your insecurity), it will just mask it.
You really are missing the bigger picture if you actually think s.hit like height and race or whatever else matters. Sure, there's a few girls who won't sleep with you if you're under a certain height - but these girls are generally the most insecure, and would be crap in bed anyway, AND they'd make you work so hard for it!! So you're doing yourself a favour.
I think anyone who is agreeing with the idea of this thread doesn't have their sh.it sorted out, and I pity you. Its really up to you to sort it out though, no-one can tell you how.
PS: Shoes with bigger soles won't solve the problem (your insecurity), it will just mask it.
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wow... And you thought I was a trollwutangfinancial said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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L777, Coming from a black guy....race is actually a huge factor, don't open that can of worms here 
, just stick to height lol
, just stick to height lolL777
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Oh shut up mate you're 17. Maybe in certain ghetto areas you have to be black and have money, or in certain upper class areas you have to be white to get women, but these are just isolated exceptions.LostAndConfused said:L777, Coming from a black guy....race is actually a huge factor, don't open that can of worms here
I was at a house party JUST LAST NIGHT and saw about 3 black guys all pulling white girls, and I saw white guys asian girls as well.
You will come to realise one day that what I'm saying about inner game is right. Appearance is largely insignificant....and I use to think like you do, so don't tell me I don't know what I'm on about.
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And ur a faggatronwutangfinancial said:
Height is obviously a factor; it's one of the biggest superficial attributes and the most noticable. If you look at singles ads almost everyone gives reference to height. As a short guy myself I prefer short girls, but I've actually encountered a few tiny girls that wanted guys that were really tall, it was kind of weird.
That being said, for most women it's not a dealbreaker; the couple of people that have stuck by their guns on height I later found out to be extremely superficial, and generally just bad at life (big surprise, huh?). Just as is mentioned in every post here, personality/confidence/sense of humor will almost always win. In more than a few instances I've snagged the girl away from the taller guy by making fun of his height and joking around on the topic.
That being said, for most women it's not a dealbreaker; the couple of people that have stuck by their guns on height I later found out to be extremely superficial, and generally just bad at life (big surprise, huh?). Just as is mentioned in every post here, personality/confidence/sense of humor will almost always win. In more than a few instances I've snagged the girl away from the taller guy by making fun of his height and joking around on the topic.
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Haha, funny you should say that man, I live in one of those isolated exceptions (the second one)L777 said:
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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Many of you need to work on self-confidence and self-acceptance before you worry about your height.
This site is about optimizing your life and success with women. Creating a pity party about your height isn't helping anyone else or yourself.
I'm 5'9, so I'm not tall. Sure my ability to pull chicks might be a little better if I was 6'1-6'4, but what does that matter to me? I can't change my height, so why the hell would I even harbor the thought for more than one second?
A girl will take a 5'7 confident and charming guy who's a beast in the sack over a 6'2 loser any day of the week.
Say you were maximizing your potential and you could only lay 26 chicks a year(1 every two weeks, doable if your game is tight). Perhaps there's a guy who is four inches taller than you and can land 32 chicks a year... Is that difference of 6 girls going to upset you so much that you compromise your confidence, charisma, and clout so much that you lay a big goose egg ZERO chicks a year, because you can't get over how different your life would be if you were ONLY 4 INCHES TALLER?
Seriously, many of the guys on this site would be certified pimps if they would stop worrying about minor things that affect their game that only comes into play at an advanced level.
ANY OF YOU CAN BLOW 95% OF THE GUYS AROUND YOU OUT OF THE WATER WITH GAME AND CONFIDENCE ALONE IF YOU WOULD ONLY DEVELOP THOSE SKILLS. MOST GUYS IN COLLEGE/UNI/BEYOND STILL "GET LUCKY", THEY ARE BEATABLE IN THE FIELD WITH SKILL AND EXPERIENCE, REGARDLESS OF YOUR HEIGHT.
Seriously, that my friends, is why some of us get so irritated with dumb threads like this.
YES, height matters.
But...
NO, if you get in the field and get your game tight, YOU WILL NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR HEIGHT.
Thread Closed.
This site is about optimizing your life and success with women. Creating a pity party about your height isn't helping anyone else or yourself.
I'm 5'9, so I'm not tall. Sure my ability to pull chicks might be a little better if I was 6'1-6'4, but what does that matter to me? I can't change my height, so why the hell would I even harbor the thought for more than one second?
A girl will take a 5'7 confident and charming guy who's a beast in the sack over a 6'2 loser any day of the week.
Say you were maximizing your potential and you could only lay 26 chicks a year(1 every two weeks, doable if your game is tight). Perhaps there's a guy who is four inches taller than you and can land 32 chicks a year... Is that difference of 6 girls going to upset you so much that you compromise your confidence, charisma, and clout so much that you lay a big goose egg ZERO chicks a year, because you can't get over how different your life would be if you were ONLY 4 INCHES TALLER?
Seriously, many of the guys on this site would be certified pimps if they would stop worrying about minor things that affect their game that only comes into play at an advanced level.
ANY OF YOU CAN BLOW 95% OF THE GUYS AROUND YOU OUT OF THE WATER WITH GAME AND CONFIDENCE ALONE IF YOU WOULD ONLY DEVELOP THOSE SKILLS. MOST GUYS IN COLLEGE/UNI/BEYOND STILL "GET LUCKY", THEY ARE BEATABLE IN THE FIELD WITH SKILL AND EXPERIENCE, REGARDLESS OF YOUR HEIGHT.
Seriously, that my friends, is why some of us get so irritated with dumb threads like this.
YES, height matters.
But...
NO, if you get in the field and get your game tight, YOU WILL NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR HEIGHT.
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