"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Ya, I'm one of the short guys out there.
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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It's their job (those guys listed) to give off a certain image-one further manipulated by the media. James dean was a pretty insecure shy person as you would learn if you ever studied up on him. Robert Deniro is a self-confessed shy guy as well.
Lastly, these guys are famous so they'll get a$$ regardless of their height-as perfectly exemplified by mini me''s marriage to a 6 ft model.
pimpfromdayone
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That's irrelevant, and you missed the point entirely. The point was, they didn't get where they are now by worrying about their height... height is hardly a disadvantage.Originally posted by Prophett
I agree that height shouldn't be made into as big a deterrent as many in this discussion claim it is, but citing 6 influential celebrities-actors at that- is illrelevant and fails in lending support to your argument.
It's their job (those guys listed) to give off a certain image-one further manipulated by the media. James dean was a pretty insecure shy person as you would learn if you ever studied up on him. Robert Deniro is a self-confessed shy guy as well.
Lastly, these guys are famous so they'll get a$$ regardless of their height-as perfectly exemplified by mini me''s marriage to a 6 ft model.
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Gandhi, T.E. Lawerence, Napoleon Bonaparte, Thomas Jefferson, Mozart, Kruschev, and so forth, were not actors but were very influential people, even to this day. They are admired by millions, not for height but for what they contributed to this world.
Women who refuse to go out with a guy just cause he is short are people who have not just real image problems but are also people who are insecure with themselves and feel they have to conform to society's "standard" in the dating pool.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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Interestingly enough, before James Dean became famous many persons said he couldn't be an actor because he was too short...so much for that contention!
silverfox
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LOL.Originally posted by sux2bu
Look at George Bush. He's 6' and still a wuss. Married to an ugly woman, also.
Now for those that are nowhere near 6' I have two words: Neil Strauss
Can we leave this alone now?
omg that's a woman?Originally posted by sux2bu
Look at George Bush. He's 6' and still a wuss. Married to an ugly woman, also.
The Juan and only
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......:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:Originally posted by fyrefly
omg that's a woman?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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This thread is awesome.
frivolousz21
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im 5 6
ive slept with 26 women..
had countless womn in love withme
stop making excuses!
Serialized3
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A guy who's relatively short (5'4") is still over 84 percent of the height of a tall man (6'4"). Fifteen percent difference. We're not talking night and day, here.
Also, evolutionary biology/psychology is one of my interests (and was my major in college) and it is a proven scientific fact (im too lazy to cite this, but there was a link to this on a college website for anyone that wants to search the forums that doesn't believe me), that for most women, the most attractive body type for a man is:
about average height (5'8" to 6'0")
broad shoulders
muscular chest and muscular arms, but not as muscular as a bodybuilder's physique.
Think Eminem, and Tupac. Women love those guys and their bodies.
Average heights are average for a reason, and that's because their naturally selected for. If only 6'+ guys were considered attractive, and were the only ones getting laid, then the average dude's height would be over 6'
FWIW I'm 5'10", and in my personal experience, most guys seem taller than me. I live in Colorado, and I dont know if it's something in the water but most guys out here seem to be 6'-6'2"
BUT: I don't really feel short. When I'm around white people they're tend to think I'm a little short, but when I'm around hispanics or native americans (my races), they think I'm tall. It's never bothered me or my game.
I've actually talked to quite a few women about this, and most women said as far as height is concerned, all that really matters is that the man is taller than them, but as David DeAngelo says, attraction is not a choice, and it's not an unbreakable rule by any means
Height is an issue but not a major one.You're not gonna not get girls because you are short absolutely not but women do prefer tall or taller guys.Just because they have a preference doesn't mean short guys won't get women.In the larger scheme of things short and tall men have an equal chance of getting women.WORKEROUTER said:This goes out to all of those short guys in the world. I myself am 5'7, and I must say, it is not a confidence booster when almost every other girl is as tall as you.
HOWEVER, you need to still establish a dominant position. One way to do this is WORKING out. I'm not saying you need to look freakish, but have a good solid physique. For me, at 5'7, I'm aiming around 170, and cut. I'm about a year away.
Also, join a contact sport. For instance, I practice BJJ. In a year or two I want to start cross-training in muay thai. By the time I'm 21, I want to be skilled in both.
These are going to help improve your mental game and your confidence is going to begin showing itself.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
DonJuanMonk said:People who post I'm short boo hoo posts have small weiners measuring about an average of 3 inches, those who are short and don't post about it have bigger penises
Yes very good point.The short guys who talk about their height probably have other things that are small too but small guys that have that and other things going for them don't complain.
comote said:There are many women who will disqualify a guy for being short, but there are also girls who will disqualify a guy for being too tall.
I've heard plenty of women say this, not just freakishly tall but I have had some of my women friends tell me they were looking for someone under 6ft. I'm 5'8" btw.
One women (also 5'8", hmmm) told me once
"I like having sex with men who are around my height because it's easier to get into alot of the different positions"
Anyways we can sit here and complain about it all day or we can work on the parts of our game we actually have control over.
Yes being too tall is a problem too.After a certain height things just look weird.I am 6 3 and definitely prefer girls that are at least 5 7 or so.It just doesn't look normal for a super tall guy to be with a super short girl.I would probably go down as much as 5 3 but there's no way I could deal with a female shorter than 5 3.After 6 3 6 4 guys just get outta orbit they all look like b ball players.Imagine a 6 5 6 6 guy with a 5 3 5 4 woman it just brings about stares.
MY sister's boyfriend on the other hand is 5'5 and he totally scored. My sister has finally found someone she is happy with and someone I can trust. (I beleive most men are not worthy of my sister) Height is not an issue here folks.
Rudy_TubeSteak
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My friend is 5'5. He slept with over 70 gals before he turned 18. He is an ugly mofo but scores the hottest girl without having to try at all. His success with women is spread out to other parts in his life. He don't gie a f*ck about his height. When someone threatens him over his size he can quickly cut them down without using violence. He has achieved so much in so little time. He accepted the fact that he is a short a*ss and he moved on.....and boy did he move on well.
I am not as good as he is but he is living proof that nothing else matters and u accept anything u were born with and the rest you need to make it happen