"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yellowspeed

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Was supposed to go out with this chick that approached ME at a club a couple weeks back. At the club she walks up to me and starts chatting me up all while leaning into me and ****, then she grabs my hand and starts leading me around the club while grinding the crap outa me. We were only together for a 15 to 20 min before her ride pulls her away and I could see and kinda hear them argueing about her really wanting to stay and her ride wanting to leave cause she was sick. So we exchanged numbers and she left.
I gave her a call last Wed to set something up for today. When I called she said she was at work and she would call me when she got out. So she calls me back and I asked her if she wanted to tag along to the drag races for today and she said sure, but instead of setting up a time and place to meet right then my dumbass told her I would give her a call later on in the week to set that up but we we both agreed to do it this sat.. So I called twice earlier in the week left a message once and got nothing back.
This is the second chick in a row who made the 1st approach and showed alot of interest only to stand me up or not return my calls as soon as I show any interest back.
The 1st chick that did this **** tried to get me to go out with her for nearly 2 months before I finally asked her out. The ***** stands me up twice before we actually go out (I only did that cause I was a dumbass and didn't have any other prospectives I was interested in) and then she agrees to a 2nd date but manages to skirt around setting anything up. WTF am I doing wrong here, these chicks shoulda been in the bag since they were the ones who approached me! Do I just naturally attract flakes?!?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Griffith

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Next time just tell her what YOUR plan is right off the bat, and if she doesn't like it, too ****ing bad.

75% of girls at clubs are just attention *****s and/or flirts, so don't take it personally.
 

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WTF am I doing wrong here
Nothing exceptionally bad or incorrect as far as I can see.

You just have to accept she was in the "club" moment when she approached you, probably running on higher emotions and thinking a whole lot differently than how she does outside of that environment.

Do I just naturally attract flakes?!?
Yes, we all do if we are any good at this stuff.
 

yellowspeed

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Ya I see what ya'll are sayin, but it's really not her in particular that bothers me, hell I've been approached by chicks before and more than likely I will be again, it's just the fact that this **** is reoccuring with not just one chick but several, and the 1st one I didn't meet in a club.:confused:
 

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Was she drunk? Because if she was then drunk girls tend to hit on a guy pretty hard at the club, the next day they are fine talking to them on the phone and then a few days later they realize they dont know who the heck you are and they are afraid of actually giving it a shot with some random dude that they danced with and spoke to meanwhile they were drunk at the club...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Wiesman44

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club / bar girls suck. Meet girls through friends. Its a lot better.
 
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