"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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wtf... so confused.

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Crazy Asian

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Hey guys, I haven't posted in a while, but I'm having a hard time figuring this one girl out.
So we met back in HS, and we hung out a few times. I invited her over to my place and watched a movie on my couch. We started to sorta mess around with clothes on, but no kissing. I tried to kiss her, and she said she had a bf and wasn't really into me. Mind you, this was back when I was a noob DJ.

So then I didn't see her for a while (now i'm in college), and we decided to hang out again. We saw each other like 2- 3 times and had fun, but nothing happened. (at this point, i only saw her as a friend, cause she really is a cool girl.)

We didn't see each other for another 2 months or so, and we hung out yesterday. I decided to tell her that I liked her. (i know people will give me **** for this, but everything is situational, and I felt it was the right thing to do). So before she comes over, she says that she saw me as just a friend. So we hung out on a couch. Like tickling, wrestling, her laying on me and stroking her back and ****, just messing around. And then about 30 sec after she leaves, she comes back and is all nervous and **** and says she wants to know what it's like to kiss me. So I do kiss her, and she's like... "well alright, i'll see you later". and she runs off really quick.

So i know i'm not a bad kisser, but not a phenomenal one either.
I'm not very worried or attached to this girl, I just can't read her like I usually can and was wondering wtf is going on.
Thanks.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Chromeo

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why did you kiss her?

you shoulda said friends dont do that, i'll talk to you later.

Then next time shes over kiss her vag
 
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iliketennis

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so when she said she saw you as a friend, did she say it in the past tense? as in "i USED to see you as a friend"? or did she say "i have always seen you as a friend."

it sounds like maybe she sees you differently now.. and if she wanted to kiss you that's a good sign.

get your head on straight and play this right (no more telling her you like her) and you should be good
 
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