"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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wtf is WRONG with me haha I need a push from you guys.

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I started my new classes last week at college.

I went to class smelling good, hair looking real good (I got longish curly hair)
Dressed well, jeans and wide vertical pinstripe collared button up shirt.

My psychology class is composed of 80% females and a good chunk of them are good looking.

There is 1 in particular that grasps my attention to an extreme.

why?

Because she just is very cute too me, and definitely in my league...I'm a 7 shes a 7 sorta thing.

Now the thing is, she keeps looking at me with every opportunity provided. Obviously this is an IOI....or if it's not it most likely is.

We've locked eyes quite a few times, and I have failed to smile or even so much as say hi. Now I know this is very outrageously stupid of me, because I basically have a "Hey how are?" from her to me with the eye contact going on so much.

It's sort of a deep gaze, and I make sure she is the one that looks away first...I'm sure I don't have some sort of threatening/creepy vibe in mine just a mmmmm I'm interested sorta look.

We both leave class at the same time, and I noticed we always end up walking withing a very close proximity to each other on our way out....she usually catches up behind me and doesn't pass or sorta walks a little bit to the side of me. Now I sorta slow down to let her catch up but she doesn't pass me just lingers near/behind a little bit.

I should have already said hi to her at the very least...and I will next time, I need some encouragement....I noticed she parked near me as well (by coincidence) We both got in our cars and I looked over a few car lengths to her spot and she was LOOKING dead at me when she went to get in her car, as I was getting in mine...sort of a "through the windows of other cars" look. But it was def directed at me, and we locked eyes once again.

Now either she thinks I'm a creep or she is very interested or shy right? This is my best guess....and I realize I need to strike while the Iron is hot.

To sum it up every single times we have crossed paths we stare at each other right in the eyes more or less until she breaks the eye contact....we both have a sort of neutral face when we do. But its guaranteed that if it's possible for us to look at each other it happens.

For example, she won't look at other guys walking in the room like she does me...but say I get up in the middle of the class and leave for a smoke or whatever, I come back in and shes head down until I come in...and we just stare at each other till I pass.

ENCOURAGE ME, help me get my ass in gear.

And no not oneitis, she is just my favorite plate at the moment. haha, thing is I can game other girls easy as pie in my other classes :/

Sound like shes interested?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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maybe advice on what to say when I do man up and say hello!
 

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I've read it lol, I just need some sense pounded in my head.
 

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Dude your probably borderline creaper! You need to make a move before she starts flaking. You said it yourself you need to strike while the iron is hot. What your showing is lack of confidence to her, and that is not how you want to start things out! Next time you see her go straight up to her and say hi! Any more staring she probably is going to start to wig out.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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lmao, this is true but she's just as guilty....she is looking at ME before I even look at her....it's actually in a funny way sorta creepy to me...if she wasn't hot I'd think she was a creeper.
 

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Yeah but in our society it is expected for the guy to make the first move, so you have to do it man. What if she is doing the same thing to guys in other classes? Then they make the move first and there you are SOL.
 

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true true...it's just the lack of smile or anything from her...sorta puts me off but I'm just as guilty because I'm not smiling but highly interested.

I guess the only way to find out is to just talk to her...
 

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Yep, and smile! I know I have problems doing it to when someone I think is hot is looking right at me.. I end up with this half assed smile that probably looks fake as hell(I'm working on it).. Just go up and break the ice, and for the first meeting do it when there is a time restraint. Like class is about to start or you have to go another to your car in another direction.. Leave her wanting more
 

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I was thinking when were walking out of class to our vehicles or whatever, I'd say "hey, we keep locking eyes and I felt the need to say hello...don't want you to think I'm a creep or something" and crack smile shake her hand and introduce my self "I'm nick, what's your name?" See how she responds to that and go from there....I'll be able to tell if shes interested in any further conversation by her body language/smile/receptiveness sound good?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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could add on the end of it "cause I was starting to think you were" to add a little more humor. But yeah that sounds pretty good
 

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lmao nice, yea....I don't think she views me as a creeper just yet....I got a really strong gut feeling that she is interested. But nice little bit of convo to add in at the end....will def get a laugh out of her if shes remotely interested :)


Anybody else got some input on this? It would be greatly appreciated!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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True....I dunno why I promised myself I'd say hi to her last class but I didn't....I'm geeking myself up for something so simple.
 

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Exhumed said:
Don't say "Because I didn't want you to think I was a creeper".
Even if you lack some confidence you should still display the confidence you do have.
Point taken.....what do you recommend? Just a simple hello? Or throw in the "we keep locking eyes" part as well?
 

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How the **** are you a Master Don Juan if you're asking advice on how to say HI? lol, just say hi bro. It's not that hard. Just pop a smile and say hi when she's looking at you (close proximity of course)
 

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Undispu7ed said:
How the **** are you a Master Don Juan if you're asking advice on how to say HI? lol, just say hi bro. It's not that hard. Just pop a smile and say hi when she's looking at you (close proximity of course)
Hahaha. It really is that simple. I'm just worried for you after you say hi.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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