Went out the other day and met this girl that I've been talking to at a bar. She was there with a few of her friends, she introduced me and it was obvious her girlfriends knew who I was. She had 2 of her guy friends there too, one that she warned me about; apparently he's really into her and they had a "thing" once but there were things about him that she didn't like, so she doesn't want to date him. So I knew that this guy would probably be hitting on her and ****, I'm cool with that, we're not exclusive and I'm not jealous. Anyway, so we hang out for a bit, dance, and shoot the **** with her friends. When we go to leave she says bye to her friends and that guy goes to kiss her on the cheek then sticks his tongue in her mouth (she stands like a statue at this point, I think she wasn't very comfortable). Anyway we leave and both our cars are in the same direction so we walk together. But she keeps walking really fast, like 4 feet in front of me. So I just say bye and go my own way. Now I'm not really jealous about what happened but it goes bother me (I tried my best to hide this). What do you guys think I should do?
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WTF!! Girl's friend sticks his tongue in her month!!
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
hey kal,
whats up bro?
sounds to me like maybe its more to the story than she led on?
most guys wouldn't risk sticking there tounge down a chicks throat unless they were sure she wouldnt make a scene.
i suggest you dont cut contact but minimize it and if she asks why tell her you've been busy and leave it at that.
whats up bro?
sounds to me like maybe its more to the story than she led on?
most guys wouldn't risk sticking there tounge down a chicks throat unless they were sure she wouldnt make a scene.
i suggest you dont cut contact but minimize it and if she asks why tell her you've been busy and leave it at that.
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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
maybe, I don't know, I'm torn on this. On one side there's the fact that we haven't known each other long, so I shouldn't care right now (and I sure as hell wasn't gonna start **** with him). But on the other side is does piss me off that she didn't push him away if she didn't want it. The easiest thing to do is never talk to her again but is it the right thing?usscrum said:
Okay, so they 'had a thing' but now it's over but he can still stick his tongue in her mouth and she tolerates this kind of behaviour? (I'm thinking this girl lacks self-respect, but I don't want to be judgmental). I just know that *I* wouldn't stand for that sort of thing...
USSCRUM has it... LOL, if he can stick his tongue in her mouth who knows what else he is sticking and where...
USSCRUM has it... LOL, if he can stick his tongue in her mouth who knows what else he is sticking and where...
damn right it is.Kal0051 said:
i was talking to a girl a few months ago - actually the girl that drove me to this site thank god - who acted similarly to your girl. i went to visit her at her college (about 3 hrs from mine) on valentines day and met all of her friends. turns out she was the campus bicycle. seems like every guy she introduced me to gave me the 'look'...you know the look that tells a guy "ive been here before". at one point she introduced me to some dude and warned me the same way this girl warned you. he really liked her but she "wasn't into him", etc. etc. he kissed her on the lips in front of me and she just stood there and looked awkward. she was distant from me the rest of the night. turns out she left her bed at 4am (the bed i was also sleeping in) to go f*ck this guy.
if your girl didn't slap the **** out of this guy, then at least one of these things are true:
1) they're f*cking
2) she has no respect for you
3) she has no respect for herself
any one of these are signs to get the f*ck out.
well fine that's what I'll do. The ****ed up thing is that she's been acting really interested in me up til that point. I haven't talked to her since then but whatever. Even if I don't ditch her that guy will probably try that **** again and I know I won't stand for it. So it probably better that I toss her to the curb rather than have to beat the crap out of her friend.
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Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
she played you two against each other
the other guy already gets what he wants but doesn't take her seriously and she tried to make him jealous by flaunting you
or she was hoping you would make a move and prove yourself the bigger man
chalk it up to experience and move on
the other guy already gets what he wants but doesn't take her seriously and she tried to make him jealous by flaunting you
or she was hoping you would make a move and prove yourself the bigger man
chalk it up to experience and move on
i dont know what the **** she wants and neither does anyone here. But I don't give a ****, I don't play games or get played myself (she knows this) so as long as she's doing that I dont want anything to do with her, simple as that.saber said:
I.A.F.Y.B.
Master Don Juan
Forget about what happend... Its time for you to make your move. Dont sit around and wonder.. why he did that and why she let him and blah blah blah. There could be multiple reasons.... Go in for the kill before someone else does.
How do you know she let him? Maybe, the guy did it too quick for her to realize it. After she realized what happened... She reacted uncomfortable like you described. You arent even dating this girl so, dont trip on it.
How do you know she let him? Maybe, the guy did it too quick for her to realize it. After she realized what happened... She reacted uncomfortable like you described. You arent even dating this girl so, dont trip on it.
no, apparently I made her uncomfortable and her friends were acting the way they were because of that. I doubt I'll see her again, I seriously think she's lost all interest (she confused or something). At the minimum I'm not gonna talk to her for a while and see how she is later. I've already deleted her number and I'll add it back in my phone in a week or so.I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Solomon
Master Don Juan
Dude move the F on
If she didn't "check" him, then tried to run away, she made her point
MOVE ON
peace
If she didn't "check" him, then tried to run away, she made her point
MOVE ON
peace
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What exactly do you have going on with this chick? If you haven't done anything together, you cant say anything. It also sounds like she was uncomfortable with the other dude kissing her, so you cant be pissed at her for that. It sounds like he just grabbed his nuts and went for it to me. Or, maybe he was trying to **** block you. Seriously though, I want to know EXACTLY what you and this chick have going on.
He was definitely trying to block me, apparently that was his goal. Nothing was going on between me and the girl yet. I'm not pissed at her, mind you I didn't like it. Anyway, it doesn't matter, things have went south with her anyway. I have another girl I've started seeing plus another girl that I have started talking to again who send me a text saying she wants to go out. So if this girl contacts me again with the same attitude she had before all this happened then maybe I'll see her again.
Thats what I thought. You have nothing going on with her, (you must admit, you have a chronic ljbf problem. I've seen it in your posts since day one) and you were pissy towards her, because some dude kissed her (not the other way around, like here kissing him) and she didnt punch him in the face or whatever. She obviously didnt like it, and she just froze. Thats a pretty normal reaction for chicks.
She owes you nothing. You had no claim whatsoever with this girl. If she were your GF, you have a right. If you were nonexclusively fvcking her, or dating, she could've pushed him away just out of RESPECT. (not obligation) But, in your case, she is 100% fair game. You cant even be pissed at the guy really.
Look, I've repeatedly seen you try to pass off your chick-friends as something more in your posts. If you're doing this in real life, I promise you it will bite you in the ass hard, so be careful! You cant do that. Its dishonest to her, us, and especially yourself. What you need to do, is just what that guy did. Man up, and plant one on these chicks, before you end up in the friend zone. And, get yourself ALONE with these girls. You always seem to be in a group somewhere.
So this other girl you're 'seeing.' What EXACTLY is going on with that? In my book, that means you're fvcking. Are you?
One more thing, relating to your other post (assuming this is still the same chick) Why do think it is, that she didnt want you around?
She owes you nothing. You had no claim whatsoever with this girl. If she were your GF, you have a right. If you were nonexclusively fvcking her, or dating, she could've pushed him away just out of RESPECT. (not obligation) But, in your case, she is 100% fair game. You cant even be pissed at the guy really.
Look, I've repeatedly seen you try to pass off your chick-friends as something more in your posts. If you're doing this in real life, I promise you it will bite you in the ass hard, so be careful! You cant do that. Its dishonest to her, us, and especially yourself. What you need to do, is just what that guy did. Man up, and plant one on these chicks, before you end up in the friend zone. And, get yourself ALONE with these girls. You always seem to be in a group somewhere.
So this other girl you're 'seeing.' What EXACTLY is going on with that? In my book, that means you're fvcking. Are you?
One more thing, relating to your other post (assuming this is still the same chick) Why do think it is, that she didnt want you around?
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I don't like dealing with "friends" because I am there to **** the girl, not be best buddies with all her friends. Although possible, ****ing her in a bar full of her friends is not going to be easy. I would've met her after she departed from the friends and not been part of that situation to begin with. Instead I would suggest going to her place next time and ****ing her. It's too much time and trouble to bother with people who want you to meet their friends, hang out a bunch of time and all that, better just to get down to business and hang out with your own friends. In short, next time take control of the situation and meet her at an isolation location, in less time you could've ****ed her and not had to waste time worrying about some weird situation
I never got pissed at her, even though she thought I was. She's not my friend, I met her with the intention to date her and I thought that was her intention too. I usually see girls alone, I actually hate the group situation. And I think she didn't want me there because she knew her friends would be hostile towards me (especially the guy that kissed her).horaholic said:
Whatever, I'll keep seeing her if she wants too. But right now she's acting weird (she says she confused about something) so I won't bring up us hanging out for a bit.
Anyway, as for the other girl, no I'm not fvcking her yet, I'm not that quick at getting a girl into bed.
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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.