"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Wow...i think i just had an AFC flashback

Noeltech8907

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Now i know i havnt posted much, but im not new and am no longer an AFC. But tonight i scared myself. A girl that i have been friends with sent me a text asking for a ride. But for about the past 7 months we havnt really talked other than saying hi in the halls, and the only time she would call me was when she needed things. Most of the time i would say no and on an occasion i would say yes (she is supposedly a friend afterall) but tonight i was fed up. So i called her and said

Me: hey
Her: hi
Me:well ill be honest with you. your a cool girl and i like you, but for a while now the extent of our friendship has been saying hi in the halls. Whats that? Nothing. So i dont feel obligated to go out of my way and give you a ride.
her:alrighty
me:bye

Now im guessing when you read that you felt a chill in your spine, because after i hung up the phone i did. You see i feel that i just pulled an extreamly AFC move. I should have just told her no. I dont know....seems like no big deal but i scared myself because i dont know where that came from and i dont want to go back to the AFC days.

....great now im paranoid.

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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logicallefty

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Yeah, a quick and plain "no I can't" would have been best. But you did better than "sure, I'll be right there".. So :up: for that
 

THE_ADDMAN

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This is part of the learning curve

dont worry about it.

live and learn
 

kyphan

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You should have requested some road #e@d in exchange for your services.

(in all seriousness, stop worrying about it and do better next time)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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MrS

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Not afc, pretty the opposite.
Ballsy.
Nice one.
 

Adakkon

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Not AFC, could have been handled better, but definately not AFC. I had some users like that in my life before I changed. Ironically they got together and had a talk about how I'd changed and was "an ass" a few months after I started coming here and changing my life. All I did was stop doing them all these little favors I'd been doing before in hopes of getting in their favor.
 

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noeltech8907 said:
well ill be honest with you. your a cool girl and i like you, but for a while now the extent of our friendship has been saying hi in the halls. Whats that? Nothing. So i dont feel obligated to go out of my way and give you a ride.
:crackup: :crackup:
 
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