"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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WOW, i finally got rejected by a girl today in front of 5 other people

The_Mole

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i just casually continued the convo


man damnit


from an innocent looking girl


i know my mistake also


we were doing classwork and then it was end of class


i didnt finish the review of her paper and i said "can i have your number to finish this?"

she said, "thats ok it looks complete enough"


and that was my mistake



plz keep this in anything else

i like the people here more than the flooded discussion board
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You should have checked for signs of interest level first and only asked for her number in private.
 

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That's not really much of a rejection. You were asking to finish the review of her paper, not for a date...

If she's innocent she probably didn't know your true intentions.
 

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WHO THINKS I SHOULD ASK AGAIN? AND HOW?


i'll probably have to pimp up my personality and pull out my "fake" personality lines to read

a personality that i used to have that always works but since i havent been thinking about girls, i became boring again.




you are right about asking for it in class while other people are around
thats a sure fail

she dont want people to know she just gives out her number




hahaha

i always try to get the number and keep it flowing
she dont want to do homework haha
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If I want help with class work or whatnot, I have no problem asking girls for their phone number. Same with guys - because it's for HOMEWORK. The fact that there were other people in the room would actually INCREASE your chances of getting her phone number (though not the date) if it was known to her that you wanted to do something more personal. Girls HATE flat out rejecting guys, especially in front of others. She didn't reject YOU, she rejected doing extra homework. My point is that in her eyes you did not ask for her phone number under romantic pretences.

However, if her interest level was where it needed to be she would've taken even the slightest opening to get together with you on a personal level. She would've given you her phone number and then tried to seduce YOU when you called to ask for homework help or whatever.

If I were in your situation, I would build more rapport with her to the point where she's giving you clear indications of interest (such as touching you/hitting you playfully or otherwise flirting with you). Then skip the phone number and ask her out to lunch after class and take it from there.
 

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WHO THINKS I SHOULD ASK AGAIN? AND HOW?
Dude, you got the b@lls of an elephant. Props to you man, you might succeed yet!

Ok, you asked, got somewhat rejected. I say let it go until you can build some interest within her, then ask again.
 
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