"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Would you take her back in this situation

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Suppose you were not being ambitious and living up to your potential, procrastinating with important things. So she left you and eventually cuts you off for someone else or to move on easier. You get things going for yourself (not for her) and are doing well 1-3 years later and you're both single. She wants to give it another chance now.

Too late for her because she didn't have faith to stand by you until you took more action to get things going so she shouldnt be allowed to reap the benefits?
Or understand that she had to do what was best for herself out of self respect, and give it another chance?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Kailex

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She was probably the reason you lacked ambition and weren't living up to your potential in the first place.

Why go back to that?
 

Scaramouche

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Dear VinKosh,
Whatever ground you concede,exact some advantage...lf she comes back it is as a F'Buddy that's it...She is a Fair Weather Friend (FWF) I thing that deserved a new Acronym,just to annoy some pedantic Guys here LOL.
 

speed dawg

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vinkoch said:
Suppose you were not being ambitious and living up to your potential, procrastinating with important things. So she left you and eventually cuts you off for someone else or to move on easier. You get things going for yourself (not for her) and are doing well 1-3 years later and you're both single. She wants to give it another chance now.

Too late for her because she didn't have faith to stand by you until you took more action to get things going so she shouldnt be allowed to reap the benefits?
Or understand that she had to do what was best for herself out of self respect, and give it another chance?
If (when) you take her back, she will once again reduce you to a bumbling AFC loser and leave you for a second time. This situation normally works itself out naturally. Everybody here knows you are going to take her back, so it's sort of a moot point.

The best advice IMO would be to f*ck her, nut all over her face, then get up and walk out.

ETA: WOW, just a quick cursory look into vinkoch's posting history brings up some pretty telling red flags:

1 - He's married but has 2 girlfriends
2 - This particular chick has thrown him for a loop since July
3 - She's a farter
 

vinkoch

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speed dawg said:
If (when) you take her back, she will once again reduce you to a bumbling AFC loser and leave you for a second time. This situation normally works itself out naturally. Everybody here knows you are going to take her back, so it's sort of a moot point.

The best advice IMO would be to f*ck her, nut all over her face, then get up and walk out.

ETA: WOW, just a quick cursory look into vinkoch's posting history brings up some pretty telling red flags:

1 - He's married but has 2 girlfriends
2 - This particular chick has thrown him for a loop since July
3 - She's a farter

Divorced by my choice. Thanks. Not taking anybody back. Nobody has asked to be taken back other than my ex wife just before the divorce. Neither have I not been ambitious. Just a question I thought was interesting for the board because I watched a movie with this scenario. The farter is not my girlfriend, not my ex, and not the person in question.

But thanks for throwing in your two cents and letting the board know you're an expert on my life.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Last of the Alphas said:
Yes, you go back to her. If you want to.

She left because she saw you as a man who lacked ambition.

Why would any woman stick around?

Don't blame her for leaving.
Exactly.. If you can't keep your shyt together how can you expect to keep a woman?
 

VladPatton

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Last of the Alphas said:
Yes, you go back to her. If you want to.

She left because she saw you as a man who lacked ambition.

Why would any woman stick around?

Don't blame her for leaving.

That may be true, but even then..you don't take her back and you find another girl. She already saw the sh!t side of you and she'll never forget it.
 
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