"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Would you say this to a girl who gave you the friends speech?

jnMissouri

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She WAS interested. I mucked up. She already presumably knows I wanted to bang her, as I tried to kiss her before. Now that she has blown me off, should I try to save face telling her I actually have a girlfriend and that I'm sorry if she got the wrong impression or leave it alone, don't text her at all anymore?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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R.U.G.

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Move on. Lose her number. Let her figure out on her own. Chances are, if she gave you the LJBF speech, she doesn't see you as a man she wants to fvck.
 

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How the fvck you have a girlfriend and you tried to kiss her. Whatever dude, it's some bullsh1t that happened to you long ago. If you consider it's worth while to pursue her, go ahead. Telling her that you have a girlfriend is like telling her you're a secret agent at night, spider man and sh1t like that. It worked while you were in high school with stupid inexperienced girls. Now you are an adult, and you are dealing with mature experienced women. If she sees you with a hot chick she might change her mind about you, I can guarantee you she will want you. But if she denied you a kiss, she doesn't find you physically attractive. She probably though you could make a good friend because you took her for a coffee or out to eat.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Bro you are so dumb. Are you collecting so many plates because they quickly find out how unpleasant you are & ditch you? You only have 2 hands, and ONE life. The clap is gonna come for you, sooner rather than later if you keep this needy player sh*t up. Work on yourself, in a mental sense (you seem to have the physical covered). Stick to 3-4 plates, or just do one & done 5x a week. You can’t juggle & seek continuous validation, it just doesn’t work like that, that’s emotional sadist sh*t. Maybe you’re always asking about game/rejection because the ladies know you’re a wh*re & not worth it, even if they heard thru the grapevine that you’re the best lay out there. Most women have no problem with casual situations but the way you’re going about it (sport not game) is a turn off. You no doubt have a reputation the way you make your rounds at work. Please for the love of god ask yourself what drives you to be so ‘ambitious’ (aka fkn needy) & do that emotional labour, no bandaids. Ps. Trying to kiss someone & then saying you have a gf after being rejected is nothing but a field of red flags dude.
 

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Bro you are so dumb. Are you collecting so many plates because they quickly find out how unpleasant you are & ditch you? You only have 2 hands, and ONE life. The clap is gonna come for you, sooner rather than later if you keep this needy player sh*t up. Work on yourself, in a mental sense (you seem to have the physical covered). Stick to 3-4 plates, or just do one & done 5x a week. You can’t juggle & seek continuous validation, it just doesn’t work like that, that’s emotional sadist sh*t. Maybe you’re always asking about game/rejection because the ladies know you’re a wh*re & not worth it, even if they heard thru the grapevine that you’re the best lay out there. Most women have no problem with casual situations but the way you’re going about it (sport not game) is a turn off. You no doubt have a reputation the way you make your rounds at work. Please for the love of god ask yourself what drives you to be so ‘ambitious’ (aka fkn needy) & do that emotional labour, no bandaids. Ps. Trying to kiss someone & then saying you have a gf after being rejected is nothing but a field of red flags dude.

Lol, wow, what a comment. Nope, been together for a looooong time. Nearly a decade. And you're calling ME dumb...lol. Assumptions is all you make. Inaccurate ones at that. You think men cheat because they can't KEEP a girl? Wow...so smart...
 

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Lol, wow, what a comment. Nope, been together for a looooong time. Nearly a decade. And you're calling ME dumb...lol. Assumptions is all you make. Inaccurate ones at that. You think men cheat because they can't KEEP a girl? Wow...so smart...
Hahahahahagaggvhaha you’re doing all that WHEN you have a gf? Wow you’re sooo much more fkd up than I thought. Go wash your walls & sort your sh*t out (it’s lowkey therapeutic af)
 

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Forget about her and forget about saving face. U should be too busy banging other plates.
 

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Alright, I thought about telling her that I'm relieved (as in I'm actually glad) telling her I wish her the best...

But I'm going to take your guys' advice and stay silent.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You placed a bet and a number diffent than yours appeared...stand up and leave the table.

Trying to bullsh1t the croupier saying you picked that number and they got you wrong will only make you ridicolous and annoying.
 

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Silence works wonders in situations like this. Some girls definitely feel a sense of pride/ego boost when they throw a guy in the friend zone; they feel wanted & carry themselves like the chooser. Going ghost takes away that power, they get curious if you still like them (hamster wheel spinning) & may even confront you about it. If it's a waste of time in your eyes, I'd just continue the silence, but another thing you can do is if you're confronted why you don't talk to them as much anymore you can just say "I don't talk to my friends everyday when I'm busy". Agreeing with her friend zone bs may confuse her a bit..which can make her pursue you if she begins to sense your value is higher than she once was lead to believe.
 

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Stay silent and be the fun, cool, high status social lead.

If you do this successfully then over time she will regret her LJBF and approach you. Hell she will even deny she ever LJBF you and she will believe her own denial. This is the power of the hamster.
Very good advice thank you!!
 
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