"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Would you marry a woman with $166K in student debt?

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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As far as I'm concerned, it'd be like practicing bigamy, because her ass is already married to the bank via shotgun wedding.
 

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If it was a thing where she really didn't have anything going on and basically I would be absorbing that debit through her, then no. Prenup for sure too.

But if she's well off or making money herself then probably.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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My girlfriend purchased a home back in 2006 when everyone was riding the bubble, and now the house is underwater. She doesn't think it's a sticking point when it comes to our future, but I tend to disagree.
 

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If she had that much debt from going to a local college for Sociology or Liberal Arts... sure, I'd run the hell away.

If she was going through Med school and finishing all the way through to become a practicing doctor, completely different story.
 

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AmIAFC said:
My girlfriend purchased a home back in 2006 when everyone was riding the bubble, and now the house is underwater. She doesn't think it's a sticking point when it comes to our future, but I tend to disagree.
Well, the beauty of dischargeable debt is that ultimately it is dischargeable (I got about $150K in unsecured debt discharged in Chapter 7 bankruptcy. :eek: :p) It is always a great idea to lock away as much cash as possible in retirement accounts, so that there is not much to lose in a bankruptcy. (I walked away with about $200K in retirement assets as well as my home and almost brand new grand piano. :p)
 

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MatureDJ said:
Well, the beauty of dischargeable debt is that ultimately it is dischargeable (I got about $150K in unsecured debt discharged in Chapter 7 bankruptcy. :eek: :p) It is always a great idea to lock away as much cash as possible in retirement accounts, so that there is not much to lose in a bankruptcy. (I walked away with about $200K in retirement assets as well as my home and almost brand new grand piano. :p)
No offense to you, I mean I am happy for you, but that is freaking ridiculous. Just one of many examples of why this country is going down the toilet. Far too easy for free loaders to live nicely while not working. Far too easy to live above your means then just want a do over by claiming bankruptcy, and far too easy to sue in court for frivolous lawsuits.

If you have that kind of cash, a house, and assets, and I am assuming a job, you declaring BK is just criminal.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I have OVER $166k in student debt. It is what it is, I cant take it back. Yeah I'm in a good field (medicine) with lots of work and an upper-middle class salary, but debt is debt.

I basically just look at it like a tax I have to pay. I have 2 options: I can either pay off as much as possible and live meagerly for years, or pay an income-based amount and have the balance discharged in 25 years or 10 years if I work in public service, whichever comes sooner.

Unfortunately student debt is not dischargeable any other way. Yet.
 

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No offense to you, I mean I am happy for you, but that is freaking ridiculous. Just one of many examples of why this country is going down the toilet. Far too easy for free loaders to live nicely while not working. Far too easy to live above your means then just want a do over by claiming bankruptcy, and far too easy to sue in court for frivolous lawsuits.

If you have that kind of cash, a house, and assets, and I am assuming a job, you declaring BK is just criminal.
C'mon man you know how things work in the US, if it's not illegal it's fair game. If you are going to hold yourself to some kind of imaginary moral high ground in the US you are just cheating yourself and in the end nobody is going to appreciate it. I suggest to anyone here to do everything in their power to secure their and their families well being as long as nothing illegal is being done.

This is a country where dollar is king If you don't take advantage of every single thing you can take advantage of you are an idiot. My home just lost a ton of value by no foul action of mine, strictly because of other peoples profiteering. In the end it's a give and take. My advice is when you get a chance to take... TAKE! Just keep things on the up and up.

I am not going to bear the burden of playing fair when i'm getting the shaft from every single business that could possibly shaft me. And even if I did play fair i'm not going to abide by some imaginary rules of decency. The letter of the law is good enough for me, and apparently some very powerful decision makers also.
 
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SgtSplacker said:
C'mon man you know how things work in the US, if it's not illegal it's fair game. If you are going to hold yourself to some kind of imaginary moral high ground in the US you are just cheating yourself and in the end nobody is going to appreciate it. I suggest to anyone here to do everything in their power to secure their and their families well being as long as nothing illegal is being done.

This is a country where dollar is king If you don't take advantage of every single thing you can take advantage of you are an idiot. My home just lost a ton of value my no foul action of mine, strictly because of other peoples profiteering. In the end it's a give and take. My advice is when you get a chance to take... TAKE! Just keep things on the up and up.

I am not going to bear the burden of playing fair when i'm getting the shaft from every single business that could possibly shaft me. And even if I did play fair i'm not going to abide by some imaginary rules of decency. The letter of the law is good enough for me, and apparently some very powerful decision makers also.
I don't fault him for taking advantage of the situation. If he can do it more power to him. I fault the US legal system 100% for allowing anyone to be able to do this kind of thing.
 

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No offense to you, I mean I am happy for you, but that is freaking ridiculous. Just one of many examples of why this country is going down the toilet. Far too easy for free loaders to live nicely while not working. Far too easy to live above your means then just want a do over by claiming bankruptcy, and far too easy to sue in court for frivolous lawsuits.

If you have that kind of cash, a house, and assets, and I am assuming a job, you declaring BK is just criminal.
I had had a good professional job before then, but I had seemingly become obsolete & unemployable at any kind of decent job since then; I considered it a "severance bonus" from the Middle Class. :crazy: I am wondering why such vitriol is directed towards me when the folks on Wall Street seemed to have done a lot worse, what with their taking of government cash and paying themselves bonuses! :cuss:
 

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I had had a good professional job before then, but I had seemingly become obsolete & unemployable at any kind of decent job since then; I considered it a "severance bonus" from the Middle Class. :crazy: I am wondering why such vitriol is directed towards me when the folks on Wall Street seemed to have done a lot worse, what with their taking of government cash and paying themselves bonuses! :cuss:
MDJ it is nothing personal towards you believe me. Like I said more power to you if you can do it. And trust me, as a stock daytrader who follows the economy and our govt as close as anyone, I know all too well the out and out scams that not only is Wall Street perpetuating on the American public, but also the Federal Reserve and the powers that be.

I feel though that this country, because of examples set by the two entities above, is becoming more and more lazy. More about gimme gimme gimme and to hell with everything and everyone else. And that is a shame.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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cordoncordon said:
If you have that kind of cash, a house, and assets, and I am assuming a job, you declaring BK is just criminal.
Bankruptcy law is one of the few rights that non-rich people have, and those rights get "reformed" into being less powerful all the time.

Moses invented debt forgiveness. He set the time at seven years. If you couldn't pay the money back by then, it was forgiven. I always thought it was funny that seven years is the time period that credit reporting agencies use to drop old debt off your credit report. 3500 years later, we still have the same credit reporting rule :)
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Bankruptcy law is one of the few rights that non-rich people have, and those rights get "reformed" into being less powerful all the time.

Moses invented debt forgiveness. He set the time at seven years. If you couldn't pay the money back by then, it was forgiven. I always thought it was funny that seven years is the time period that credit reporting agencies use to drop old debt off your credit report. 3500 years later, we still have the same credit reporting rule :)
Goes to show you how much religion really controls the world in which we live in.


Ahhh yes, religion...another scam. :)
 

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If she is in the medical field or works on Wallstreet, then the debt can be managed. But the issue is that no one can really "predict" what's going to happen after you actually get married:

- What if she gets pregnant and decides to be a stay-at-home mom and "require" you to be a "real man" and work all day to pay all expenses and her debt?

In the example I provided, even if you had a Pre-Nup she could make a case that her skills have been destroyed through being a "stay at home mom" and the Judge could override the Pre-Nup as a whole or aspects of it, as well as give her Alimony. A Pre-Nup can never be iron clad, you can always structure one but you really have no idea if it's going to "insure you" until you are actually going through the divorce proceeding.

Me personally, I am NOT getting married. There's no upside benefits for a man with his life together, a solid career and future to get married. I am going to make children though for the sole reason of leaving a Legacy. This will be with a woman that fits my standards though, and I will structure my monetary sources so that if the worse case occurs with the woman trying to put me on child support, I have ways to show lower levels of income.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Bankruptcy law is one of the few rights that non-rich people have, and those rights get "reformed" into being less powerful all the time.

Moses invented debt forgiveness. He set the time at seven years. If you couldn't pay the money back by then, it was forgiven. I always thought it was funny that seven years is the time period that credit reporting agencies use to drop old debt off your credit report. 3500 years later, we still have the same credit reporting rule :)
For Chapter 7 bankruptcy, it's 10 years. :eek: :cry:
 

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Student loans are forever.

Now, if you asked me if I would marry a woman with $66K in credit card debt... completely different story.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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