"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

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Would You Like to Date a 23 Year Old Hooters Waitress and Tier 4 Law Student?

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She is supposed to graduate in December with her JD. She is still making news as of April 2023 and is expecting to work at Hooters part-time while being a lawyer. She has been working at Hooters since December 2016, when she was 17 years old and just about to turn 18.
I'd hit it.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Not sure but I enjoy it. Not enough to go out of my way to go to one. It’s just a regular restaurant with more aesthetically pleasing servers that generally will act a bit more submissive. I do wish they had top tier food though. The business model encourages simping, so no need to get better food.
Sounds a little odd to me, and it would make me feel like a simp to even go in there. Not saying you are, I'm glad you enjoy it. If I want to check out women I'll go to the mall that's nearest the closest university. I bet I can sit in the food court and see 1,000 women an hour that are more attractive than the waitresses in the breastaurants, or at least on the same level. It's interesting that you say the servers will act more submissive though, haven't heard that before.
 

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Sounds a little odd to me, and it would make me feel like a simp to even go in there. Not saying you are, I'm glad you enjoy it. If I want to check out women I'll go to the mall that's nearest the closest university. I bet I can sit in the food court and see 1,000 women an hour that are more attractive than the waitresses in the breastaurants, or at least on the same level. It's interesting that you say the servers will act more submissive though, haven't heard that before.
Yes, but you'll look the old creepy guy in the university town, whereas it's OK to be the old creepy guy at a breastaurant, strip joint, massage parlor, brothel, etc.
 

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She works at Hooters. She should be looking for McDonald's workers, as they are on her level and might be willing to put up with a semi-prostitute.
No female Hooters worker (even those with only a high school diploma/GED) thinks they are the same level as a McDonald's worker.

Plenty of men with bachelor's degrees or higher working solid white collar jobs and well compensated, skilled blue collar tradesmen are chasing Hooters/Twin Peaks type waitresses/bartenders.

it's OK to be the old creepy guy at a breastaurant, strip joint, massage parlor, brothel, etc.
No, it isn't. There are often older guys drinking/eating alone at bars at Hooters/Twin Peaks locations. You don't want to be a middle aged or older guy alone at a breastaurant. It looks better if you're there with a friend.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

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No female Hooters worker (even those with only a high school diploma/GED) thinks they are the same level as a McDonald's worker.

Plenty of men with bachelor's degrees or higher working solid white collar jobs and well compensated, skilled blue collar tradesmen are chasing Hooters/Twin Peaks type waitresses/bartenders.
The Hooters girls more than likely dating some cook, waiter, or some bum. My non-degree friend was a hooter's waitress, and she dated those guys and settled for a fisherman. I also have another friend that worked at Twin Peaks after college until she got into pharmaceutical sales, but she exclusively went for educated rich guys like surgeons or tech bros. That's why I put a lot of emphasis on whether a girl has a degree or is pursuing one because her entire outlook on life is differs just on that alone.
 

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This is the woman that would potentially reject all but the most elite of "Chads" lol. Something that she fails to take into account is that there are so many other women that are roughly as attractive as her or possibly even more so, yet she probably believes that she is some unicorn.
Yes, but the most elite of Chads will only "pump & ghost" her, they will never put a ring on it
 

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Yes, but you'll look the old creepy guy in the university town, whereas it's OK to be the old creepy guy at a breastaurant, strip joint, massage parlor, brothel, etc.
Disagree. I'm allowed to eat at the food court.

 

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The Hooters girls more than likely dating some cook, waiter, or some bum. My non-degree friend was a hooter's waitress, and she dated those guys and settled for a fisherman. I also have another friend that worked at Twin Peaks after college until she got into pharmaceutical sales, but she exclusively went for educated rich guys like surgeons or tech bros. That's why I put a lot of emphasis on whether a girl has a degree or is pursuing one because her entire outlook on life is differs just on that alone.
Pharmaceutical saleswomen are basically Breastaurant waitresses with corporate attire.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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The Hooters girls more than likely dating some cook, waiter, or some bum. My non-degree friend was a hooter's waitress, and she dated those guys and settled for a fisherman. I also have another friend that worked at Twin Peaks after college until she got into pharmaceutical sales, but she exclusively went for educated rich guys like surgeons or tech bros. That's why I put a lot of emphasis on whether a girl has a degree or is pursuing one because her entire outlook on life is differs just on that alone.
There are some different types of women at Hooters/Twin Peaks.

There are women with high school diplomas or associate level degrees who will never obtain a bachelor's.

There are also women who are pursuing their bachelor's degree or might already have their bachelor's. The ones with a bachelor's might be doing it part time or doing it in between corporate jobs.

Hooters/Twin Peaks jobs are good jobs to prepare women for corporate sales roles in pharmaceuticals, medical devices, or a few other different corporate sales roles.

I agree that these women would be different and would be interested in different men.

Leah Fennelly (the law student with a BA in Political Science) seems interested in the white collar Chad type.

Pharmaceutical saleswomen are basically Breastaurant waitresses with corporate attire.
This is true. It's not just pharmaceutical sales reps. Medical device companies are also known to hire attractive women, some of whom might have been former breastaurant workers, college cheerleaders, or strippers. A lot of corporate sales roles are staffed by attractive women.
 

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A lot of corporate sales roles are staffed by attractive women.
For the same reasons breastautants exist: to extract wealth from the men who control it with the non-existent promise of sexual access. Because 99% of males are pathetic.
 

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For the same reasons breastautants exist: to extract wealth from the men who control it with the non-existent promise of sexual access. Because 99% of males are pathetic.
Do you know if the food at places like Hooters is even any good? I've never been to these types of restaurants so I have no idea.
 

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Pharmaceutical saleswomen are basically Breastaurant waitresses with corporate attire.
Those were my favorites to date. Always fun, outgoing, good looking, sweet, charming. All the ones I was with had bachelor degrees and made serious money.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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A lot of corporate sales roles are staffed by attractive women.
For the same reasons breastautants exist: to extract wealth from the men who control it with the non-existent promise of sexual access. Because 99% of males are pathetic.
This is a good point. Attractive women sell in the medical space (pharma, medical devices) to mainly male doctors. Although a lot of doctors earn good money, they still have the attitudes of beta males. The lure of a sexy female sales woman will work on them.

There are attractive female sales reps in a lot of business to business sales rep roles. It happens in building materials, where there are female sales reps selling to architects and construction contractors. Attractive female sales reps sell business software to white collar business executives too.

Working at a Hooters/Twin Peaks type restaurant, being a college cheerleader, or stripping can all work for backgrounds into becoming an attractive female sales reps. Breastaurant work, cheerleading, and stripping are all forms of sales. When those forms of sales are combined with a bachelor's degree, employers in corporate sales roles are impressed with that background and more likely to hire.

There's an argument that an ex-breastaurant worker or college cheerleader with a bachelor's degree has an advantage in getting hired for a corporate sales role than a lot of men with bachelor's degrees that are similarly aged.

Do you know if the food at places like Hooters is even any good? I've never been to these types of restaurants so I have no idea.
Twin peaks has pretty decent food.
There are a lot of different breastaurant concepts out there and the food varies.

Hooters is still the largest breastaurant chain out there, but is a shrinking brand. The brand has closed about 25% of its locations since 2010. They peaked at around 400 locations in the USA but are now around 300 locations. That number might also fall in the future. Hooters hasn't innovated on their food menu and they've faced increased competition. Hooters has been known for their chicken wings being good but most other things on the menu are average. A common criticism is that some of the interiors at Hooters locations are a bit dated.

Twin Peaks is the strongest competitor to Hooters. In January 2023, they had 95 locations (see below). Twin Peaks has some upscale food offerings like grilled salmon, steak, and pot roast. Both @The Duke and @EyeBRollin have noticed that the food at Twin Peaks is good and better than Hooters. I also perceive it that way as I have been to both Hooters and Twin Peaks. The biggest challenge for Twin Peaks will be keeping quality high as they grow past 100 locations. Twin Peaks differentiates from Hooters with the more upscale food offerings I mentioned, a uniform that shows women's abs, and newer interiors that give off a different vibe.


There are a bunch of other breastaurant competitors that have either 1-4 locations or 5-19 locations. Texas seems to be the capital for almost all the breastaurants. Hooters and Twin Peaks locations are in Texas, but many of the smaller competitors either initially opened in Texas or have a presence in Texas. Examples of these would be Ojos Locos, Tilted Kilt, Bombshells, and Knockouts. Right now, those 3 concepts are in the 5-19 range and Ojos Locos has now reached 20+. Titled Kilt was once 20+ (got up to around 80), but closed a lot of locations and has only 9 locations. Ojos Locos is a concept that I think will do well. Ojos Locos is a Hispanic themed breastaurant that hires Latina women, serves mainly Tex-Mex food, and shows Latin American soccer games on TV. That's a niche that can do well with the growth in the Hispanic population. Ojos Locos is up to 29 locations in the Southwestern USA.

The food at Ojos Locos isn't as good as a Hispanic mother's or grandmother's kitchen but it is good enough to draw in some Hispanics/Latinos.
 

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There's an argument that an ex-breastaurant worker or college cheerleader with a bachelor's degree has an advantage in getting hired for a corporate sales role than a lot of men with bachelor's degrees that are similarly aged.
Your typical sales branch in a company is corrupt AF and will simp for women in these roles. These women get by off of their looks and usually get promoted early and stay in middle management or something. They are not fit long term for sales roles.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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