"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Would you give up your seat on a bus or train for a lady?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I would give my seat up for the elderly, be it an old lady or an old man.Warrior74 said:
But I don't give up my seat for young girls, or even pregnant women.
What's funny was when this guy offered his seat on a bus to this young working professional girl, she shot him down, and he was so embarassed.
It's probably due to this 'strong woman mentality' that is pervasive.
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I still do some things based of chivarly.
However, it really depends like the other brothers said before.
I guess I feel embarrased taking up a seat when I can very well stand. Im in very good shape and standing for a bit doesnt bother me.
Im from NYC and I relied on public transportation the majority of my life. Never did it to impress a woman - always did it for my own beliefs.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Now the elderly, regardless of gender, are not in the best of physical shape and standing on the bus/train is much more taxing for them than it would be for young people. The same applies to the handicapped and injured.
kingsam
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like FVCK they are the weaker sex, if anything we are!Zarky said:
womans life expectancy is normally a little higher than mens
Theres too many social dynamics and variations involved. For instance...
One day I was a couple stops away from where I get off (heh). all seats are taken and there was 1 dude standing and 1 chick standing. Before I got up i offered it to the dude (no homo) this was a strategic move. he shrugged like alright. I get up, an started talking to the girl, turns out she was getting off at my stop and I got those digits ended up smashing a couple weeks later.
another case where chivalry loses
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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This one time I was on a tram, minding my own business when a young girl got on. There was no seat left, so she was standing up holding on to a pole. I was looking out of the window zoning out & didn't notice this. A middle-aged woman behind me told me to get up and offer her my seat, and before I could say anything, complained about me being a typical unchivalrous young male in modern time. So I told her that it'd be an insult to that young lady and the feminists who had to fight so hard for equality with men, only for someone like her to infer that they're not strong enough to stand up on a tram. Old hag was fuming but had to shut up. People on the tram looked at me like I was public enemy #1.
That was way back before I knew anything about Game or Men's Rights. The irony is that I was raised in the old school style and I would've got up then & offered the young woman my seat, if it hadn't been for the loud-mouthed older woman telling me off.
Unfortunately, what she failed to realize was that chivalry was based off of the girl being chaste, modest, and submissive. In other words, chivalry was based off of an expectation that the girl act a certain way.Jitterbug said:
No knight was running off to perform dashing deeds for sluts or drunken party girls.
Now of course it is no surprise to any of us that girls follow only one rule, expediency. Therefore, they will continue to demand chivalry without following the associated rules of conduct required of them, in hopes they will still be able to receive chivalrous treatment.
The bottom line is this: we know girls are expedient, so why the anger towards them? What is the point of getting angry at girls who are fundamentally amoral? We should focus on keeping girls *in check* instead of just fuming at them for their *entitlement attitude.* In other words, focus on being a strong man. Desperate men who would give their right nut to sleep with Jessica Alba are not strong enough to keep girls in check.
Every ancient culture knew that you had to keep girls in check otherwise the civilization collapses.
jophil28
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Yes indeed. Unfortunately not all men realize this or acknowledge it.Trader said:
If any of you still cling to the fantasy that women are open to placing reasonable behavior above their emotional, whimsical actions, just watch and observe how they live their lives and make the choices that they do.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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However, there is this cultural expectation there with young women where they feel like they are ENTITLED to sit down on every train. Like if you dont give up your seat they are kind of put off they have to stand and hold their Gucci bags like everyone else. Fvck them. If you are not a senior citizen, disabled, or with kids, you can stand your healthy as$ up like the men and deal with it. I watch these kinds of behaviors in the subway and I notice that women will almost always sit immediately when they get to the stop or get on the train. It's automatic...they just sit down right away. I would purposely stand because I had been sitting at a desk all day.