"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Would you be happy for your daughter to be treated the way you treat women?
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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I reckon I'm not the type of person your question is targeted at though.
Dhoulmagus
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A better question is: "Would you be happy for your stripper daughter to be treated the way you treat strippers?". A stripper is a certain type of woman that gets treated a certain type of way.
I treat women a certain way depending on the type of woman I'm dealing with. A person's daughter can be any type of woman. So the question is stupid.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
RangerMIke
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Having said that, I do not use women. I make it VERY clear what I want, I do not lie to women, lead them on, or treat them with anything other than respect. I look for women that want the same things I do, without the burden and stupidity of exclusive relationships.
Tictac
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This.
Outside physical coercion, you never really force anyone to do anything. If you allow women to choose, you're only acknowledging what's already happening. Guys that thing they convince a woman to do anything she doesn't want to do fool only themselves.
My daughter is fully aware of this. And she's one of the only Krav Maga trained women I know. It was hard to watch some of the training she and her brothers went through. But she at least has already proven that pawing at her is not a good idea if she's not receptive. A guy from a neighboring college found out the hard way.
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+ 1, I believe the question shouldnt be too broad and give me a behaviour she is showing and then we can talk about how should my daughter ( if I had one) or women be treated in return
If you treat me like $#!7, I will guarantee you that I will treat you like $#!7 as well, whether you are a man or woman.
I only deal with (date or enter into relationship with) marriageable girls, so I respect the girls/women I talk to.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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That is easy said than done. It's almost nearly impossible to raise your children right in this cultural marxist society.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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wifehunter
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My current date told me she "brags about the places we go together". It helps to yelp.
For me, the last 5 years have been a collection of quality versus quantity. I've had one date per week and one girl per month and one state per year, and I've taken my dates to the finest restaurants where we shared a few appetizers and drank wine. Compare that to memories of spilling Taco Bell on the seat of my Cutlass in 1993 and joking "Big Beef", and I'm happier now.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
marmel75
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Notice her words...she brags "about the places we go" NOT about you...
You're right. Your girl meanwhile says "I love Jeremy, even though he takes me to McDonald's".
But wait, why would my girl spill all the beans right away? Do you think she's going to say "I told my friend I think you're hot and I hope you tie me up and blindfold me"? Her saying "I brag about you" is probably a good thing.
BTW this girl spent the entire day today, right up to this minute, texting me novel-length texts, ending by calling me her "love". So much for marmel's bigneil-is-always-wrong theory.
marmel75
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I don't think you are wrong at all. Throwing money at women always works.
But that isn't game. That's buying what you want. If that's what you want to do then by all means do it, but don't try and pretend like these women are with you because your game is so good...they are with you because they see dollar signs.
Every post you write seems to revolve around money---how much you make, how much you spend on a date, what you buy your dates, etc...
I have a feeling your self worth is tied to how much money you have.
The point I am making is that you don't NEED to spend money to get a girl to go out with you/fvck you/date you, etc...
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Your daughter will only grow up wanting the..."bad boys" if you do a poor job raising her and she grows up with no self respect.
There is different types of men than "nice guys" or "bad boys" those are just two flip sides of clown.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.