Would u approach a girl that give u a bad initial reaction like staring away or closes up? I'm fine with girls that give me the green light but not really sure what to do with ones that do not. Should I approach anyway to show how I am and hopes that the girl would grow on me?
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
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would u even try?
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Don't ask her out cold.
Talk to her first try and warm her up. If she's cold - forget it and move on.
Talk to her first try and warm her up. If she's cold - forget it and move on.
**** her, there are better women who are warm and friendly. Do not approach her, it's way more fun to talk to someone who is interested in talking with you instead with someone who try to find a way to get rid of you.
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You wont know unless you try. Why dont you, next time.Originally posted by david90
that's not my question.
my question was should I approach if a chick doesn't make/avoid ec with me.
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I don't think the original poster asked about girls who have an obvious b*tch shield up. I'm in agreement that if I see an obvious b*tch shield up from any chic, f*ck her...her loss and off to the next chick.Originally posted by Lifeforce
I don't understand the mantra on this board where you approach chicks who show obvious "get the **** away" signals. Are you machocist who enjoy being rejected?
I think he was more asking about women who show neutral interest in any situation if he should still cold approach.
The answer is a definate yes. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. So she shoots you down, big freggin whoop, her loss...now go hit on another girl.
Its about reading your environment, her attitude, the context of the pickup.
If you only hit on girls that give obvious buying signals, wtf is the challenge in that.?? Turning around a girl with neutral interest and trying to raise IL is what a lot of the c/f, kino, and other DJism in this site is there for.
Once you start succeding with women you thought you had NO chance at, your own standards get raised and cold approaching ANYONE becomes simple.
The whole point of approaching as many girls as possible is to get your numbers up, get as many phone numbers as possible, date as many chicks as possible and weed out the flakes.
Now, there is an art and a science to reading "body language" and "buying signals" that I won't get into here. It 's probably covered on many previous threads. Having said that, there's probably not much harm in "crashing and burning", depending on the experience level of the DJ.
If you are at the point where you can reasonably predict a reaction from a chick, then use your best judgement. If you are new at this, blaze away and hope for the best. Practice and experience are invaluable.
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Now, there is an art and a science to reading "body language" and "buying signals" that I won't get into here. It 's probably covered on many previous threads. Having said that, there's probably not much harm in "crashing and burning", depending on the experience level of the DJ.
If you are at the point where you can reasonably predict a reaction from a chick, then use your best judgement. If you are new at this, blaze away and hope for the best. Practice and experience are invaluable.
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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]Originally posted by david90
Would u approach a girl that give u a bad initial reaction like staring away or closes up? I'm fine with girls that give me the green light but not really sure what to do with ones that do not. Should I approach anyway to show how I am and hopes that the girl would grow on me?
I say , go for it, i mean what do you got to lose ...she didn't like you in the beginning /......it could only get better
Not every chick that is interested will give the signals that they are interested. Girls can be shy too.Originally posted by Lifeforce
I don't understand the mantra on this board where you approach chicks who show obvious "get the **** away" signals. Are you machocist who enjoy being rejected?
MetalFortress
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I heard this said somewhere before - "Make the ho say no!" Works every time :-*Originally posted by david90
Would u approach a girl that give u a bad initial reaction like staring away or closes up? I'm fine with girls that give me the green light but not really sure what to do with ones that do not. Should I approach anyway to show how I am and hopes that the girl would grow on me?
Yeah, but if she show those signals like closes body language, look away, avoid looking at, then you know she is probably not interested or is playing games, either way it's not worth it.Originally posted by Fatality
Not every chick that is interested will give the signals that they are interested. Girls can be shy too.
If she's neutral the approach and test her, if she seems interested to talk, stay, if not, leave. Don't be one of the guys that linger trying to boost interest.
The last girl I dated did all of those things before I actually approached her. She always seemed to avoid looking at me everytime I made eye contact with her. She definitely seemed like she wasn't interested but I still made a move and it worked. She was just really shy and fortunately for me my confidence was about as high as it has ever been at the time.Originally posted by Lifeforce
Yeah, but if she show those signals like closes body language, look away, avoid looking at, then you know she is probably not interested or is playing games, either way it's not worth it.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.