"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Worthy of more pursuit?

peteywintz

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First off, I talked to this girl almost in passing at a bar and number closed after paying so little attention to her it's unbelievable for about 2 minutes, that I was amazed she even texted me back. However, she's a hard HB8 on a bad day. Anyways, here's how the last two text conversations we've had have gone:

Me:Let's get a drink or two together Thursday, you free?
Her: No :( it's finals week for me. I'm drowning in academia till dec 12th
Her: When I'm done though I'm down
Me: Ouch I remember those weeks. We'll make plans when you're done
Her: Are you graduated? And yeah def
Me: Yep, I'm a working man

Conversation ended, she responded with some bull**** that doesn't really matter to the story and I didn't text her for a week. The next conversation:

Me: How about this Thursday afternoon for a drink?
Her: If I'm done in time! I have a photoshoot at 12 but I'll text you when I'm done
Me: How about we shoot for 3:30, is that enough time?
Her: No way. Shoots are like 6 hrs. I'll let you know when I'm going to finish once we start
Me: Damn. I have a soccer game at 6:30 so later is no good
Her: Aw :/ ****

I left it there. I have a few other plates spinning right now (with probably a few more being added to that list this weekend) and even though she's hot, I don't care enough to surrender the frame. Also, I would rather never see her again than get into the "waiting for her to text" mode.

Thoughts? Should I let it rest for a few days and then try again? Or should I just forget about it?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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dap

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I'd say that the ball is in her court. If she wants to meet up, she will reach out. I'm not blown away by her IL. I would move on until she texts.
 

VladPatton

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I agree, ball's in her court. See if she gives you a text to meet up since you did 2 already. I would try just one more time after that. If she had a high IL she'd make time for you, regardless if she was splitting atoms at lunch time.
 
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How I would have responded

peteywintz said:
Me:Let's get a drink or two together Thursday, you free?
I'm free Thursday, lets grab a drink

Her: No :( it's finals week for me. I'm drowning in academia till dec 12th
Her: When I'm done though I'm down
Me: Ouch I remember those weeks. We'll make plans when you're done
Sounds good

Her: Are you graduated? And yeah def
(Silence)

...

Me: How about this Thursday afternoon for a drink?
(Silence)

Her: If I'm done in time! I have a photoshoot at 12 but I'll text you when I'm done
Me: How about we shoot for 3:30, is that enough time?
Sure
Notice how she won't give you a couple hours of her time throughout the entire week? Doesn't matter how much she is studying. Interested women will arrange their schedule for you. I'm surprised you didn't next this one sooner since you already have a few plates spinning...plus more.
 

TheWolfMan

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Agree, next this girl. No counter offer=not interested. Spin more plates, is she texts and wants to meet up fine, but don't count on it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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NewAndImproved

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peteywintz said:
First off, I talked to this girl almost in passing at a bar and number closed after paying so little attention to her it's unbelievable for about 2 minutes, that I was amazed she even texted me back. However, she's a hard HB8 on a bad day. Anyways, here's how the last two text conversations we've had have gone:

Me:Let's get a drink or two together Thursday, you free?
Her: No :( it's finals week for me. I'm drowning in academia till dec 12th
Her: When I'm done though I'm down
Me: Ouch I remember those weeks. We'll make plans when you're done
Her: Are you graduated? And yeah def
Me: Yep, I'm a working man

Conversation ended, she responded with some bull**** that doesn't really matter to the story and I didn't text her for a week. The next conversation:

Me: How about this Thursday afternoon for a drink?
Her: If I'm done in time! I have a photoshoot at 12 but I'll text you when I'm done
Me: How about we shoot for 3:30, is that enough time?
Her: No way. Shoots are like 6 hrs. I'll let you know when I'm going to finish once we start
Me: Damn. I have a soccer game at 6:30 so later is no good
Her: Aw :/ ****

I left it there. I have a few other plates spinning right now (with probably a few more being added to that list this weekend) and even though she's hot, I don't care enough to surrender the frame. Also, I would rather never see her again than get into the "waiting for her to text" mode.

Thoughts? Should I let it rest for a few days and then try again? Or should I just forget about it?
First, I disagree with Wolfman. There are counteroffers here, they're just vague. For example: "Her: When I'm done (with finals) though I'm down." (She said Dec 12th... I would have gone ghost and hit her up the 15th or later) She also appears to be trying to continue the conversation by asking the OP questions. Interest isn't all or nothing, though we can save stress, time and money by only pursuing High IL girls.

This girl simply isn't High IL, maybe because of the short face-to-face interaction you had, maybe because you went for the meetup up too quickly (AND BY TEXT) instead of sending some high-value texts, having her invest, getting her on the phone and then asking her out properly. You don't give us that much context, so I can only assume.

I will say that the girl certainly isn't afraid of losing you to anyone else. If she was, she wouldn't be vague and make time to see you. I'm in a fairly similar situation myself, which is why I ultimately decided to stop pursuing (luckily she's in my social circle so I'll see her eventually.)

I guess I've said a couple of different things. My final verdict would be to go ghost and wait until at least the 15th, get her to invest a bit more and call her for the date this time. As guys we need to listen more. She said she was busy til the 12th with finals... FINE. Don't respond to any other texts. Don't reach out. Move on and reengage later.
 
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