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Worst date I've ever been on

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Sent this random model chick on Facebook my PoF opener, we agreed to go out, and I got her number. Date was about an hour ago. Went TERRIBLE. From when we first said "hi" to each-other she was boring. Adding nothing to the conversation, giving lame answers, not asking me any questions. The climax was when we went to Starbucks. She ordered a drink and I could see on her face that she expected me to pay for it. I didn't. We sit down to chat and (if it's even possible) she's even more lame and pissy. She, at some point, admits that she expects the guy to pay on the first date and that her mom raised her to expect this. A few minutes later she says "you know what, I don't like you teasing me like this. I don't know you like that." *Sigh*... So she can't take a joke/has no sense of humor either... She shortly thereafter gets up, says "you know what, I'm done," and walks out. I just thought "whatever..."

A few texts were exchanged afterwards. One of hers read: "I've never had a guy talk to me and be disrespectful the way you did."

Ha. God I hate Annapolis women. Spoiled, stuck-up, boring...
 

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You should have said Au Revoir to her before you paid for her drink.
 

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at what point did you say f*** it, pick up some other chick, leave with her, then stick the first girl with the bill?

cuz that would be totally boss and it's what you should've done.
 
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You aren't going to attract all of them, but you should look back and reflect your actions on this date.

She agreed to go on a date with you, meaning she had interest. By her adding nothing to the conversation shows decreasing interest. Whatever you are doing didn't maintain it. You must always lead the conversation, especially on the first date. You are the pilot, navigating where you want the social interaction goes. Women love talking about themselves, which gives you the benefit of probing and taking advantage of what they tell you to get their pants off.

You did ask her out, so why not pay $5 for her drink? If you are doing it to establish control, you're taking the wrong approach. Nothing to fuss about, just fork it. For her to blatantly say she doesn't like you teasing her shows that you are excessively negging her - even to the point that she got sick of it. It's not that she doesn't like humor or jokes, but she doesn't like YOUR humor or jokes. That's why she simply got up and left.

I'm going to bet you initiated the text exchange afterward. Why would you do that?
 

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Sounds like you may have gone overboard with the teasing/negging.
 

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GS750 said:
Sounds like you may have gone overboard with the teasing/negging.
This. and lol@ not paying for her $5 coffee. I mean its $5, more of a nice gesture than anything. I could see if this was like a $50 bar tab or something, but its five dollars and its a model chick you invited out over facebook. Seems like you were trying to make up for your poor conversational skills by making fun of her the whole night and are shocked it didn't work. Seems that you went out with her with the intention of finding something about her to pick apart instead of enjoying your time out with her. Meanwhile next time she goes on a first date with some guy will pull a wrinkly $5 bill out of my pocket to cover her coffee, have a conversation with her that will make her laugh, and fuk her that night.
 

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Don't feel too bad. At least she looked like a model. Lots of guys sometimes get dates like these with even uglies and fatties and can't even get a model to meet up period.
 

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OP you really should work on your conversation skills, your **** was cringeworthy

Here's an example of how boring she was...

Me: Annapolis is beautiful. You ever been out on the water around here?

Her: Yeah...

Me: *confused at her lame-ness* So that's it?

Her: I mean, I have a boat. *offers no other information*

Example of me teasing her...

*Meet & hug* Me: *jokingly* What was your name again?

Another...

Me: "So did you end up going to Baltimore last night? I called the police department and told them you were coming. They said they were going to call in the military."

When she got pissed...

Me: *in reference to me not buying her drink* If it's REALLY that much of a problem I'll give you three dollars 77 cents right now!

It was ALL said jokingly and with a smile. And fuk you if you say it's lame. Of course it's lame - I'm typing it
 

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sigma335 said:
OP you really should work on your conversation skills, your **** was cringeworthy
My conversation skills are great. I never have trouble talking with people (unless, of course, it's a lame b!tch with no personality). Also, anything written and taken out of context is cringe-worthy. You should post something, though, since you're obviously a master of conversing.

sigma335 said:
This. and lol@ not paying for her $5 coffee. I mean its $5, more of a nice gesture than anything. I could see if this was like a $50 bar tab or something, but its five dollars and its a model chick you invited out over facebook. Seems like you were trying to make up for your poor conversational skills by making fun of her the whole night and are shocked it didn't work. Seems that you went out with her with the intention of finding something about her to pick apart instead of enjoying your time out with her. Meanwhile next time she goes on a first date with some guy will pull a wrinkly $5 bill out of my pocket to cover her coffee, have a conversation with her that will make her laugh, and fuk her that night.
I've paid for MANY dates when the girl was good company (more expensive dates, too). Why in the fukking hell should I pay for ANYTHING a girl buys when she's a piece of garbage and it's obviously going to be a waste of money? Not paying for her drink and letting her get pissed was me further proving that she's a piece of trash. I wouldn't have bought her a 25 cent handful of candy from K-Mart with how she acted. The only mistake I made was not walking out before she did.
 

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Korrupt said:
My conversation skills are great. I never have trouble talking with people (unless, of course, it's a lame b!tch with no personality). Also, anything written and taken out of context is cringe-worthy. You should post something, though, since you're obviously a master of conversing.
Don't ask her what her name is right after meeting her, comes off as rude.Try telling stories that are interesting. Your questions weren't interesting and seems like you didn't know where to go with them. Learn how to lead a conversation.

I'm not trying to fight with you on a message board, but to say this was the worst date and she was such a b!tch is a bit extreme. I've had dates with b!tchier and more introverted girls before, some went worse than this and some went better. I think you were ready to label her a b!tch and give up to soon, its not like you were being this charismatic guy either. To put all the blame that it was the worst date ever on her unproductive. Also where were you before Starbucks? In the future meet up at a bar and have drinks for a first date.
 

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Stagger Lee said:
Don't feel too bad. At least she looked like a model. Lots of guys sometimes get dates like these with even uglies and fatties and can't even get a model to meet up period.
This reeks of scarcity mindset if you're a guy whose got his stuff together meeting beautiful women or model caliber women shouldn't be an issue if guys put women who aren't fat or ugly on the pedestal automatically maybe it would help their game out x10000

Korrupt said:
My conversation skills are great. I never have trouble talking with people (unless, of course, it's a lame b!tch with no personality). Also, anything written and taken out of context is cringe-worthy. You should post something, though, since you're obviously a master of conversing.
No offense OP I saw your thread on the misc and maybe your convo skills aren't as great as you think they are especially since you send her a copy/pasta to kick it off. Not only that but calibration seems of in that "Example" convo

The reality is this it goes both ways if you were intriguing and had the tight convo skills to back it up she would have been interested since she had lack of interest she decided to be extra entitled. Chicks like her should not be taking on dates but invited over after the bars to get fucced on your couch

You shoulda walked away but instead you took her to coffee and didn't pay

Next time walk away OP your great looking guy why waste your time?
 

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Solomon said:
This reeks of scarcity mindset if you're a guy whose got his stuff together meeting beautiful women or model caliber women shouldn't be an issue if guys put women who aren't fat or ugly on the pedestal automatically maybe it would help their game out x10000
Having your stuff together means having a very high level of appearance. If you can meet up with beautiful female models off of Facebook or where ever else more power to you. But don't tell me it's about mindset or that not putting girls on a pedestal is alone going to do anything.
 

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sigma335 said:
Don't ask her what her name is right after meeting her, comes off as rude.Try telling stories that are interesting. Your questions weren't interesting and seems like you didn't know where to go with them. Learn how to lead a conversation.

I'm not trying to fight with you on a message board, but to say this was the worst date and she was such a b!tch is a bit extreme. I've had dates with b!tchier and more introverted girls before, some went worse than this and some went better. I think you were ready to label her a b!tch and give up to soon, its not like you were being this charismatic guy either. To put all the blame that it was the worst date ever on her unproductive. Also where were you before Starbucks? In the future meet up at a bar and have drinks for a first date.
I really don't think it's his job to create the greatest conversation anyone has ever had while the girl puts in 0 effort and barely even responds to anything other than professional caliber.
 

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Whatever. Sounds like you two didn't get along. At least you were only out $5. I've gone on dates where we didn't get along and I was out $80 for dinner. Fortunately I haven't been that dumb in awhile.

Move past it, date more chicks. Not every date is gonna be a good one.
 
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Sounds like you were acting like a weasel, OP. I don't know the girl. Maybe she's to blame for some of it but that act you put on wouldn't have impressed any woman, let alone a model.

Personally, I've never been a fan of negging. High risk, low reward. It's too risky...too easy to **** it up and come off as a gross dip**** loser. Date over.

You want to come off as confident and interesting, not defensive and weird. Learn from this, OP.

P.S. IF you are going to neg a woman, build some chemistry with her first. Get her comfortable and engaged with you. Doing that **** right off the bat is a rookie move.
 
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Solomon said:
The reality is this it goes both ways if you were intriguing and had the tight convo skills to back it up she would have been interested since she had lack of interest she decided to be extra entitled. Chicks like her should not be taking on dates but invited over after the bars to get fucced on your couch
She flipped the switch to be become 'extra entitled?' That is as much as I will say to your understanding of women.

I don't even know how to respond to this....do you even date women? Take your own advice and apply it before spewing that horse sh!t on this forum. Let me know how I can help make you more successful with women.
 

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OptimumIndividual said:
Sounds like you were acting like a weasel, OP. I don't know the girl. Maybe she's to blame for some of it but that act you put on wouldn't have impressed any woman, let alone a model.

Personally, I've never been a fan of negging. High risk, low reward. It's too risky...too easy to **** it up and come off as a gross dip**** loser. Date over.

You want to come off as confident and interesting, not defensive and weird. Learn from this, OP.

P.S. IF you are going to neg a woman, build some chemistry with her first. Get her comfortable and engaged with you. Doing that **** right off the bat is a rookie move.
I didn't neg her nor do I ever neg. I teased her just like any other girl. Apparently her not being able to take a joke + believing she's a princess led to her being offended.

I now know why she's single, and I now know why her last status on Facebook read: "Men are stupid." This girl is impossible. No guy will be able to "game" her till she lightens up.
 
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Korrupt said:
I didn't neg her nor do I ever neg. I teased her just like any other girl. Apparently her not being able to take a joke + believing she's a princess led to her being offended.

I now know why she's single, and I now know why her last status on Facebook read: "Men are stupid." This girl is impossible. No guy will be able to "game" her till she lightens up.
Welcome to BeDJ's world of self reflection!

You fvcked up with this girl and you are telling yourself that she is IMPOSSIBLE to attract. You think to yourself that no man will ever be able to game her because YOU FAILED TO GAME HER YOURSELF!

It's that EGO you must shatter. That ego is your very worst enemy. You will never improve your game until that EGO of yours is in check.

Listen,

You BLAME her for not being attracted to you.
YOU rationalize why she wasn't attracted
You make EXCUSES for why you didn't succeed
You label her as a PRINCESS because you put her on a pedestal

Should I go on? You FVCKED UP AND YOU ARE TRYING TO BLAME EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN FOR YOUR FAILURE. IT'S COMMON, IT'S YOUR EGO.

You are not alone, instead of making excuses on why you weren't successful this this chick, own up to your own mistakes.

LET GO OF THAT FVCKING EGO!
 

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