Worst date I've ever been on

[the_stig]

I'm just curious what you said to "tease her" that caused her to walk away mid-date AND send you a text reiterating the poor treatment.

Sounds like she just wasn't that attracted to you, been there before, when they don't say much or try to maintain a conversation when you first meet, it's usually a good sign they aren't interested. Oh well, next.

 

[adam225]

Welcome to BeDJ's world of self reflection!

You fvcked up with this girl and you are telling yourself that she is IMPOSSIBLE to attract. You think to yourself that no man will ever be able to game her because YOU FAILED TO GAME HER YOURSELF!

It's that EGO you must shatter. That ego is your very worst enemy. You will never improve your game until that EGO of yours is in check.

Listen,

You BLAME her for not being attracted to you.
YOU rationalize why she wasn't attracted
You make EXCUSES for why you didn't succeed
You label her as a PRINCESS because you put her on a pedestal

Should I go on? You FVCKED UP AND YOU ARE TRYING TO BLAME EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN FOR YOUR FAILURE. IT'S COMMON, IT'S YOUR EGO.

You are not alone, instead of making excuses on why you weren't successful this this chick, own up to your own mistakes.

LET GO OF THAT FVCKING EGO!

Well put. Kill that ego !

 

[zinc4]

You shot yourself i he foot with the name question as soon as yo met her setting u a bad vibe that u couldn't shake off...also IMO you came off as try too hard with the over the top negging.....tone down the negging and focus on getting her to open up to you by finding out what her interests are.

Over the top negging comes off as poorly masked insecurity...there has to be a steady balance and some sort of connection or comfort level built up first.

Also you got the coffee at the beginning of the date..correct?...it's only $5...u made yourself look really cheap solidifying the bad vibe from her. If it was at the end of the date i wouldn't blame you since u knew you would never see her again nor get any action, but it was the beginning.

Also, avoid coffee dates and take them for a drink..coffee dates are for girls and time wasters.

 

[OptimumIndividual]

The first clue was when you expected her to be self-supportive by paying for a $5.00 cup of coffee.......and then she got all pi$$y about it.

She was entitled and was b1tchy for not getting what she feels she is worth, a free ride.

Why are you reinforcing this wrong idea---that it's all her fault---in OP's head? He was dead in the water well before the coffee incident due to all the stupid, aggressive negging and bad conversation. "Entitled" has got nothing to do with it.

 

[skinnyguy]

You dodged a bullet. Good work.

These hot girls with no personalities are toxic and will make you jaded real fast. This girl was just looking for a guy to pay for her stuff and worship her cause of her looks. The nice thing is that they always get what they deserve (abusive boyfriend, etc).

 

[Solomon]

Having your stuff together means having a very high level of appearance. If you can meet up with beautiful female models off of Facebook or where ever else more power to you. But don't tell me it's about mindset or that not putting girls on a pedestal is alone going to do anything.

You could meet a model or a chick who is model caliber just grocery shopping. Seriosuly don't understand why you guys are so obessed with meeting sloots online. If guys take beatiful women of the pedestal you don't think it would help their game?

She flipped the switch to be become 'extra entitled?' That is as much as I will say to your understanding of women.

I don't even know how to respond to this....do you even date women? Take your own advice and apply it before spewing that horse sh!t on this forum. Let me know how I can help make you more successful with women.

What I mean by "extra entitled" was that she was being a bytch to OP, a woman can act like a bytch to a person then be a complete sweetheart in a blink of an eye. It's an interesting dynamic. The flipside of the "Extra entitled" is when she does it to a guy she is suppose to be into. it means you have no value to her whatsoever, women do this all the time when you see them deal with waitress or people they don't think have any value to them. IN her eyes Op had no value...

and ERM lol @ you thinking you gonna make me more successfull, you obviosuly haven't read my old FR's

 

[OptimumIndividual]

Bottom-line....OP needs to learn from this and move on. Bad dates are very useful for this reason. It sounds like your feelings got hurt and your ego bruised. Putting this all on the girl is equivalent of a football team losing a game and blaming it on the refs. Even if the refs DID make bad calls here and there, it still doesn't matter. Placing your own failures on others is not an attractive quality in anybody, male or female.

You have to examine what YOU did wrong because it's obvious that you made mistakes.

BTW, I know it sounds like we're coming at you hard and brutal but we're just trying to be as honest as possible and help you re-evaluate your game and not make the same mistake twice. That's all.

 

[Ronaldo7]

You could meet a model or a chick who is model caliber just grocery shopping. Seriosuly don't understand why you guys are so obessed with meeting sloots online. If guys take beatiful women of the pedestal you don't think it would help their game?




What I mean by "extra entitled" was that she was being a bytch to OP, a woman can act like a bytch to a person then be a complete sweetheart in a blink of an eye. It's an interesting dynamic. The flipside of the "Extra entitled" is when she does it to a guy she is suppose to be into. it means you have no value to her whatsoever, women do this all the time when you see them deal with waitress or people they don't think have any value to them. IN her eyes Op had no value...

and ERM lol @ you thinking you gonna make me more successfull, you obviosuly haven't read my old FR's

Aren't you that old, fat guy who has a receding hairline that would put LeBron to shame? Someone should have told you that just because the girl has more love handles than you doesn't mean she's a HB. You really have no room to talk.

 

[Solomon]

Aren't you that old, fat guy who has a receding hairline that would put LeBron to shame? Someone should have told you that just because the girl has more love handles than you doesn't mean she's a HB. You really have no room to talk.

Yeah you got me I'm fat and old and I have no game....

Gosh you really did expose me!!!

 

[Ronaldo7]

Yeah you got me I'm fat and old and I have no game....

Gosh you really did expose me!!!

All facts though.

 

[Solomon]

All facts though.

Yeah lets look at the facts


*yawn*

FOMF Dirt eater you missed a spot!

:crackup:

 

[Ronaldo7]

Yeah lets look at the facts


*yawn*

FOMF Dirt eater you missed a spot!

:crackup:

Some girls do like fat guys with receding hairlines. It's all good. Props for rocking the overweight LeBron look. It does work for you.

 

[Solomon]

Some girls do like fat guys with receding hairlines. It's all good. Props for rocking the overweight LeBron look. It does work for you.

It's hard for me to take trolls serious but then again you are a "God" how I should be honored to be in your presence!!!!

Please teach me the wise ways of your Game oh Master Ronaldo



Use to be a time that trolls on here at least tried to be funny, now not so much

 

[Ronaldo7]

It's hard for me to take trolls serious but then again you are a "God" how I should be honored to be in your presence!!!!

Please teach me the wise ways of your Game oh Master Ronaldo



Use to be a time that trolls on here at least tried to be funny, now not so much

So you call me a troll for going to the gym? Is that you subconsciously knowing you wished you could do the same? I can understand how you are unhappy with yourself. You can try to hide away your insecurity in being the "funny fat guy". If you want help, you should just ask for it instead of antagonizing people who are what you wished to be.

Thank you for showcasing my threads. It can inspire people who read this thread to better themselves and achieve the almighty level. Apologizing for what you feel is like saying sorry for being real.

 

[zinc4]

Renaldo, i have noticed that you always throw in a slew of personal insults when you step into give advice which renders your advice useless...no one wants to listen to advice from someone who is degrading them at the same time. I can only imagine your interactions with women and people in general must be the same. Perhaps am wrong. But you will catch more with honey so to speak....

And guys, about the OP's date...the chick just wasn't into him and deemed him very low value....ANY woman will act like this when she has very low IL.....thy all act like majorly entitled *****es when there i zero interest......IMO he negged too much in the very beginning the name line was just silly....she obvious had some interest in the beginning to accept the date in the first place...but that interest was killed after first mins of talking.......guys, don't neg too much....just a little here and there is fine but you have to also have a good base convo about her in the midst of this....i never neg in th very beginning because you don't know how thick their skin will beat first....get a good friendly convo and then neg a little after that is established. and then you can gradually up the pace....it's all abut timing an rhythm...

 

[Tomthebomb]

i think there's a lot of dateless losers in this thread telling op when he did wrong and how to learn from this experience. Who the hell cares? its some women. its a funny story nothing more.

i think the thing here is that these dateless losers think that the goal of dating a girl is to f.u.c.k her, to do apply whatever formula you need in order to get the girl in the sack, to debase and change yourself and do what you've gotta do to get that magical *****. for anyone that actually has some personal value (and does get laid) the point of dating is to find a girl that YOU want to spend time with, that is worth your company.

In the mind of the dateless losers not buying the chick a drink is a bad move because she might get upset which could lead to a chain of events culminating in not getting laid. To an actual MAN with a sense of pride and personal standard, requiring a girl to pay for herself is a good test to weed out the entitled *****s. If you like teasing, then teasing her is a good test to see if she is compatible with you. Only desperate, dateless losers are willing to change who they are just for some magical ***** (***** that is so cheap you can get it any given Friday/Saturday night should you choose to do so.)

 

[OptimumIndividual]

i think there's a lot of dateless losers in this thread telling op when he did wrong and how to learn from this experience. Who the hell cares? its some women. its a funny story nothing more.

i think the thing here is that these dateless losers think that the goal of dating a girl is to f.u.c.k her, to do apply whatever formula you need in order to get the girl in the sack, to debase and change yourself and do what you've gotta do to get that magical *****. for anyone that actually has some personal value (and does get laid) the point of dating is to find a girl that YOU want to spend time with, that is worth your company.

In the mind of the dateless losers not buying the chick a drink is a bad move because she might get upset which could lead to a chain of events culminating in not getting laid. To an actual MAN with a sense of pride and personal standard, requiring a girl to pay for herself is a good test to weed out the entitled *****s. If you like teasing, then teasing her is a good test to see if she is compatible with you. Only desperate, dateless losers are willing to change who they are just for some magical ***** (***** that is so cheap you can get it any given Friday/Saturday night should you choose to do so.)

Nice projection.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Renaldo, i have noticed that you always throw in a slew of personal insults when you step into give advice which renders your advice useless...no one wants to listen to advice from someone who is degrading them at the same time. I can only imagine your interactions with women and people in general must be the same. Perhaps am wrong. But you will catch more with honey so to speak....

And guys, about the OP's date...the chick just wasn't into him and deemed him very low value....ANY woman will act like this when she has very low IL.....thy all act like majorly entitled *****es when there i zero interest......IMO he negged too much in the very beginning the name line was just silly....she obvious had some interest in the beginning to accept the date in the first place...but that interest was killed after first mins of talking.......guys, don't neg too much....just a little here and there is fine but you have to also have a good base convo about her in the midst of this....i never neg in th very beginning because you don't know how thick their skin will beat first....get a good friendly convo and then neg a little after that is established. and then you can gradually up the pace....it's all abut timing an rhythm...

They aren't insults. They are constructive criticism to learn from. I do it with the very best intention possible. They are somewhat alike, not all of them. I simply am who i am and can't, and won't, change to please anyone.

 

[zinc4]

i think there's a lot of dateless losers in this thread telling op when he did wrong and how to learn from this experience. Who the hell cares? its some women. its a funny story nothing more.

i think the thing here is that these dateless losers think that the goal of dating a girl is to f.u.c.k her, to do apply whatever formula you need in order to get the girl in the sack, to debase and change yourself and do what you've gotta do to get that magical *****. for anyone that actually has some personal value (and does get laid) the point of dating is to find a girl that YOU want to spend time with, that is worth your company.

In the mind of the dateless losers not buying the chick a drink is a bad move because she might get upset which could lead to a chain of events culminating in not getting laid. To an actual MAN with a sense of pride and personal standard, requiring a girl to pay for herself is a good test to weed out the entitled *****s. If you like teasing, then teasing her is a good test to see if she is compatible with you. Only desperate, dateless losers are willing to change who they are just for some magical ***** (***** that is so cheap you can get it any given Friday/Saturday night should you choose to do so.)

I don't date to find a girl who i like spending time with...i am not screening for marriage nor GFs..yes i date them to bang them and then drop them unless i find one who is exceptionally hot or good in some other way....or ones who can make good plates...

Say what you will, but OP's negging game is over the top...i have noticed this in some of his other posts.....i currently have 6 girls i can call up and bang petty much any time i want so this advice is hardly coming from a dateless loser....good interesting convo mixed with just a little negging here and there goes a long way...you can't just neg neg neg from the get go....

the way the OP went about it was over the top and unnecessary...and i am sure the girl was a majorly entitled b&tch like most of them...but then again who cares, the goal was to pump and dump her...and paying five$ for coffee at the beginning of a date for a good pump and dump is hardly a bad investment in my eyes...i spend about $15-20 on drinks and appetizers all the time to pump and dump afterwards or keep them as plates if they are good enough that i never take out after the first date only invite them for sex at my place...and i don't do it to impress them, i do it because i am a generous person in general and take my guy friends out for dinner and drinks as well to a super cheap Vietnmaese restaurant here wheereu can also sing karaoke while eating nd/or drinking..it just feels good and promotes positive energy...plus it's a great place and atmosphere with dirt cheap beer an excellent food to break the ice and great relaxing atmosphere...first impressions are huge....beats the hell out of a coffee date and plus you both get tipsy....making the transition back to your place much easier and smoother...

Only if i have any good reason to think i aint getting sex afterward drinks and dinner ONLY then will i demand she pay half for practical reasons......besides overly concerning yourself over $5 reeks of a scarcity mindset in general and is college kid stuff...plus OP bought the coffee at the beginning of the date considering they met at a coffee shop...

There are so many mistakes in his actions and dialogue and the first big one was going on a coffee date in the first place.....that right there will lower your value subconciously in her eyes...seriously what kind of man wants a coffee date?? That is something that girls g on together with other girls as friends and reeks of desperation that you would settle for such date to appease her in the first place. I can't think of anything more boring than a coffee date. I used to agree t such ridiculous things as well back when i was younger as a college student...huge mistake.i have never had a good coffee date.IMO the cards are already stacked against you on such dates and she will label you as safe and boring.

 

[cordoncordon]

Zinc has pretty much nailed it in this thread. You have to develop some sort of rapport with the girl first before you can start to just throw out negs left and right.

Also agree that a $5 cup of coffee is nothing.

Also agree that going for coffee is worthless. When I was single I never did it and if I am ever single again I never will. Take them to a lounge/bar/nightclub where there are adult beverages being served....at night. That just opens the door so much more than meeting them during the day for a coffee. I don't know many girls that will go straight from coffee to sex. Alcohol to sex? Happens all the time obviously.