"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I was in love with my gf. I thought we would be together safe and sound. 8 months into our relationship, over a period of one month, my gf's behavior started to change drastically. She started getting mean and having attitude problems. She was also getting a lot less physical. Eventually she broke up with me.

It was very emotional on both ends initially breaking up. She told me she had to "fix herself".

we kept in contact however, and I proposed to work things out and get back together.

She said she wanted to work things out slow because of nursing school comming up. Even though we already talked about it when we were together.

a week later we had sex, but were still not "together yet" to her.

During that week she admitted that she broke up with me because we "argued a lot".

A week later, I admitted to messing around with fake boobs, while her and I were broken up, making it sound like a woman to get her in line for being rude to me, then to calm things down admitted it was a tranny. The next day she asked me if I was "half gay?".

She became not physical and I was pissed. this was over a weeks period.

Skipping the pleasantries, two days ago I had a date planned. She got into a stupid argument with me and I called the date off. 3 hours later I decided to give her a chance so I said "we could go out still". she told me she made plans with her cousin and couldn't go. I was pissed. I said "either were going out or im finding someone else to go out on a date with me today". She's always told me "its ok you can date someone else if you want. I wont date other guys but you can date other girls if you want". It always pissed me off. She said the same thing again when I threatened and said good luck. This time I took her word for it. I went out with someone else and madeout with her on the date, and told my ex. (This is for her attitude problems and being non physical)

my exgf/gf became pissed and wanted to break up. But she's still willing working things out.

This is so odd. please help.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Your needy bro.

You need to meet someone new. You wont be happy with this girl.
 

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I'm just going to use light contact with her. She's mean, doesn't care, and doesn't respect me. She even says she "loves me". from time to time, but not on a usual basis anymore. I guess since there's been a lot of tension. I called her the devil once... apologized my ass off for it, but still she's been very cold.

I wanted to know how I could work on myself and let her know in the most loving way possible she's been a heartless *****. I called her that too once...
 

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Jondo said:
A week later, I admitted to messing around with fake boobs, while her and I were broken up, making it sound like a woman to get her in line for being rude to me, then to calm things down admitted it was a tranny.
WAIT WAT?!?! You been messing around with a trap? What the f*ck...
 

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"trap" ya but hey..............fake tits
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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you are not a man anymore in her eyes... and the more you talk to her into fixing stuff, and the more you tell her about your other dates, the less of a man she is going to see you until she won't even value you as a human being.

that's right, keep giving her attention after she broke up with you, and she will perceive you having such low value, almost subhuman.

so yea
 

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There was no value system I had for her. I loved her for who she was.
 

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I wanted to take things light, not give any contact unless she contacts me first, and see how things go. Things were going smoothly in my mind, but we were truly arguing a lot.

I wanted to know what you guys think of her nature? it seems hard to follow. She's very closed minded with me. There was trust issues, but she knows she's on a time line and she can't behave the way she does anymore.
 

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can you give a quick summary on what the arguments were based on most of the times?
who initiated arguments?
why did she have an attitude with you?
what was her excuse for not wanting to be physical with you anymore?

If I ever perceive my girl to start becoming distant physically with me, I will point it out immediately and ask her to deal with it as soon as she can... like ASAP.... if she can't then i immediately break up with her..... not allowing her get away with becoming physically distant with me, i would never reward that.. EVER.

it doesnt matter if you have dated her for a month , or 10 years.

that's how women work
 

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then that's what I will do. Thank you all fine gentlemen for being helpful in this case. I'll be sure to keep things updated.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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-can you give a quick summary on what the arguments were based on most of the times?

Her crappy attitude


-who initiated arguments?

She had the distant grumpy attitude, I got pissed off. I couldn't trust her. She would always hide her phone, change her mood a lot, be distant emotionally often. She had a distant "best friend" who she used to text 4 months into our relationship whom she knew for 6 years. She told me once "I loved him beyond your imagination". Things like that would set me frenzy.


-why did she have an attitude with you?

Because I couldn't trust her.


-what was her excuse for not wanting to be physical with you anymore?

She could be physical, she was just weird about it and often set weird boundaries.

One time I was going to suck her boobs and she complained that it "burned". a week later she let me slobber all over her breasts.

She would complain about things hurting a lot. Eventually we became very lightly physically involved. She would resist holding hands because she "didn't feel comfortable". Bull**** like that.


SHELL BE CLINGY SOMEWHAT SOMETIMES.
 

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hehe wow... thats a lot to deal with

that's ok you still young and learning.

allowing any of the behaviors you described is the quickest way or technique to have you girl lose attraction for you at lightning speed.

guaranteed.

just learn from your mistake, and make the decision that you will no longer tolerate second class behavior from any girl... you will stop it the minute you detect it, and smash it.... if it doesnt go away, you get rid of the problem by getting rid of the girl..


having this attitude is like having tests of your own that your women must constantly pass, if they fail, you be the one who ends it.

they will love you for it, and will be attracted to you for as long as you want.
 

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It was very emotional on both ends initially breaking up. She told me she had to "fix herself".

we kept in contact however, and I proposed to work things out and get back together.
I had a girl who broke up with me because she needed to 'fix herself'. I just went out with her yesterday after giving her 9 years to fix herself. She didn't fix anything, she just broke more 5hit over those 9 years.

You're wasting your time. Women have no desire, energy, nor motivation to 'fix' themselves. Throw her in the garbage and get a less damaged model.
 

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That's all correct to the T. Now, it's at a point where it doesn't matter to her if I break up. Which is so bad. It does matter to her a little though since she kept talking to me even though she was about to break up. I told her that we can't ever work things out if we say negative things about each other. I told her we have to work with each other...and she has to be nice. hehe. I'm so done with trying to hold up the clouds. I'm just gonna let them miststst
 

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Have to find a new model, but after all this ****, I'd rather have a new corvette and be in debt.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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it's love, but tough love. I'm just going to keep my love to my penis when I masturbate.
 

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I told her that we can't ever work things out if we say negative things about each other. I told her we have to work with each other...and she has to be nice.
You can tell her anything you want, but don't expect her to change. If you can't deal with her the way she is, then get rid of her.

Women generally won't change for anybody unless they highly respect the person they're changing for. This woman doesn't respect you as evidenced by this:

She became not physical and I was pissed. this was over a weeks period.
A woman who respects you will gladly get her ass into the bedroom and get naked when you tell her to. This woman respects a good night with a dildo and her vibrator more than she respects you.
 

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This thread is all about treating symptoms over the disease.

OP needs some serious anti-AFC Therapy.
 

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or some Shakespearean history on "Julius Caesar", but hey, there's always a bigger troll
 

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Jondo said:
or some Shakespearean history on "Julius Caesar", but hey, there's always a bigger troll
But there's never a smaller penis...than yours. Why else would you so doubt your ability to get any other women?

You are a sh!theel.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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