"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Working out VS rating scales.

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Pretty simple question.

I have a hot or not account and am rated 7.1. I haven't really worked out in a year. I'm not fat, not skinny, not muscly, not unclean. I have severe problems with alcohol. I have a very receding hairline, which sucks. I shaved my head to overcome this.

Back on topic... I'm really interested to see what my rating will change to, after following an intense workout program and reducing my alcohol intake for 6 months. I'm going to submit a shot to hotornot on a new account, after 6 months and see what the rating will change (hopefully it goes up, at least!!).

So a question for all you DJs out there.. how much do you think it's possible to add to one's rating scale by working out at the gym? Assuming the guy didn't start off being a skinny, scrawny guy or fat, lazy guy.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You are a 10,,don't mind what the others think of you. It's not important. Wake up,,and convince yourself you are a 10,,and that everything today will be simply wonderful!

1) you FEEL like a 10
2) you ACT like a 10
3) others in return will look up to you and think of you as a 10.

But don't be ignorant, because all of us have room for improvements.
 

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EvilAgenda said:
You are a 10,,don't mind what the others think of you. It's not important. Wake up,,and convince yourself you are a 10,,and that everything today will be simply wonderful!

1) you FEEL like a 10
2) you ACT like a 10
3) others in return will look up to you and think of you as a 10.

But don't be ignorant, because all of us have room for improvements.
he doesnt know..

and this does not belong in the tips fourm.
 

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EvilAgenda said:
You are a 10,,don't mind what the others think of you. It's not important. Wake up,,and convince yourself you are a 10,,and that everything today will be simply wonderful!

1) you FEEL like a 10
2) you ACT like a 10
3) others in return will look up to you and think of you as a 10.

But don't be ignorant, because all of us have room for improvements.
Great advice. If you feel like a 10 and act like a 10 , others will think you're a 10.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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A lot, but I don't think it's going to be quite so visible in pictures.

Also, 6 months isn't enough. To make any SERIOUS improvements in your physique you're going to need 1.5-2 years of solid, hard work done right. Anything beyond "losing the beer belly" or "toning up" is going to take that long, at least.
 

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CosMoenTropic said:
I seriously doubt you are over the age of 14 .. Are you fking kidding me?
No, I'm old enough to know better.

All good advice "feel like a 10", act confident. Nearly everyone knows these things. But this isn't what the thread was asking at all. I am talking 100% physical appearance. Looks DO matter, to a lot of people. If you choose to live in ignorance of that, you're holding your own game down.

Furyguy, have you ever heard of Gym Jones?
 

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If you feel like a 10 and act like a 10 , others will think you're a 10.
Also if you act like you are 10, (like the author of this post), others will think you are 10.

Seriously, hot or not is a load of pure bull.
 

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I can tell you this-- it is a lot easier for you to get results in the gym if you have bigger motivations than simply vanity.

Think of it as developing your discipline, building character, and setting goals. This will keep you motivated longer.
 

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1) get into the gym
2) kill the alcohol consumption. IF you can't drink under control and in moderation then it's none at all.
3) Why do you care how others see you? You know what you have to do so do it and then you'll feel a hell of a lot better.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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CosMoenTropic said:
I can tell you this-- it is a lot easier for you to get results in the gym if you have bigger motivations than simply vanity.

Think of it as developing your discipline, building character, and setting goals. This will keep you motivated longer.
I know this. I went to the gym regularly (3-4 times a week) for 3 years in my late teens/younger 20's. What does this have to do with the original post?

No-one has actually answered the post itself and instead is trying to give me all this advice I didn't ask for. I can browse the forum and articles myself... The question itself has nothing to do with "what can I do to become a more attractive man?". I'm comfortable with myself, believe it or not.
 

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The_411 said:
2) kill the alcohol consumption. IF you can't drink under control and in moderation then it's none at all.
3) Why do you care how others see you? You know what you have to do so do it and then you'll feel a hell of a lot better.
2) Trying to work it down. Got into a habit of drinking a lot when I was depressed last year. Was binge drinking every night of the week until around a month ago where I cut it down to 1 or 2 nights.
3) Trust me, I'm there. Heading there now in fact. And a duathlon tomorrow, huhu. Go me.
 
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