"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Womens expectations at online dating sites

Raikojo17

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Kings_royalty said:
Here are a few comments regarding American women that I found. What are your views fellas?



1: I will go one step further and differentiate between Western women vs. non-Western women. This is not just an American phenomenon, most women in Western countries have that cold, *****y, superficial, stuck up attitude. A lot of Western women hold themselves as the pure center of the relationship. If the men don't fit a rigid and unrealistic criteria or she doesn't feel the man can take care of her enough (even if she has a higher paying job) then she will drop him like a hot potato, regardless of his character or commitment to the relationship.

Popular Myth: Western men looking for foreign wives are only seeking subservient slaves.

Truth: Most Western men today are evolved and modern and truly believe in the 50/50 system. Most Western men are dismayed by the lack of sincerity of Western women. I can do my own laundry and cooking thank you!

Yes, Latin American and Eastern European women do make better mates because both come from more conservative and family oriented cultures where relationships and commitment are actually revered.

2: Honestly I wish I could have found an American wife with all the qualities of my foreign wife. I could not, because they do not exist. Here is a partial list of her loveliness

1: Sensible and good with money.
2: Genuine commitment.
3: Very family oriented.
4: Hard working.
5: She does not have to diet to look great

Foreign women are comfortable in their femininity. As a male I am attracted to this. And I love her with all my heart.

I believe that American women have priced themselves out of the marketplace. Too needy, too many headgames, too easy to divorce.

Not many foreign men want American wives either.

3: American women..
- highest maintenance (I've never heard of a foreign bride demanding her husband buy expensive house & cars)
- fattest in the world
- most likely to cheat
- highest rate of divorce (60% - US-US marriages; 20% - US-foreign marriages)
- largest payout in divorce court (you'll be ass-raped for everything you earned, plus most of what you will earn for years to come)
- *****iest
- most likely to nag constantly
- most likely to believe in feminism and "equality"
- most likely to hate men
- spend least amount of time with her children
- worst at cooking and cleaning
- ****ed & chucked by tons of guys before tricking you into marriage
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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To the guy who asked if I am short-I am 5'9", which is average, as in 50th percentile, the middle of the bell curve, etc. I am not 6' tall, to these women apparently anything less than 6'tall is really short, so by that definition I am really short.

This is kind of ironically funny. You guys have the same kind of sense of entitlement as the women being complained about in this thread. It's not just the women who think they deserve everything to be handed to them on a silver platter and that they don't have to be as perfect as what they demand of the opposite sex.

I admit that I have very high dating standards as well..but I can also say that I DO hold myself to the very same high expectations that I do guys. If you don't hold the same kind of ideals for yourself as you do others than you are a hypocrite. Just as there are many women at online dating site who are hypocrites, there are a lot of hypocrites on here as well.
How about a woman who isn't fat, doesn't have kids, is educated (I am all these things). The only double standard I have is I want a woman who is younger than me, because as stated above most women in this country as they age get fat and ugly. At least mid 20's to 30's, ideally 25-30. I don't think that is asking too much because in real life women don't seem to care as much. In real life being with a guy who is 5, 7, or even in some cases 10-15 years older is no big deal to them. I also look younger than I am, I still get carded occasionally, so maybe that is why in real life younger women still show some interest. My dad was tall, dark and handsome, taller than I am. He is in his mid 60's now but I remember when I was travelling with him when he was in his 40's and 50's there were plenty of 20 something and 30 something women coming on to him, showing IOI's, at his age(when I was still in high school and too young for them). So I don't even think the age thing is necessairly a double standard. When he took me sailing in Cosa Rica and there were women all over him. Of course he was married and didn't do anything, but he obviously could have if he wanted to.
As far as education and wealth, I have a doctorate but quit my job as a professor to pursue my dream as a photographer, so right now I admit I am not rich but I think I can still make plenty of money in the future. As far as upbringig I come from a "stable" family as well, in fact, I come form a wealthy family, which I assume is what the other poster really meant by "stable". However, I do not even use that as part of my criteria, flaunt it or show them any indications of this, especially to women I don't know. In our family it is rude to talk about money and my parentls encouraged us from a young age to not do this(I am annonymous here)- in any case it is not my money at the moment except some paper assets I have no control over, and it has no bearing on who I am as a person anyway. At least no more than how tall I am, unlike women who can diet and excercise to not be fat, height, like family wealth, is a matter of luck being born to the right parents.
 

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The problem with internet dating sites is that although 90% of the people who are searching for a partner are ugly the other 10% are very good looking which means they get all of the messages from the other sex.
If you are not a hunk who is highly educated with a well paid job and workout at the gym you can forget about meeting any hot babe from these sites.
Even if only 20% of men are better looking than you they still won't message you but if you think about it what type of woman do you message yourself the hottest ones obviously, unfortunately it goes both ways.
 

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Marcopolo said:
To the guy who asked if I am short-I am 5'9", which is average, as in 50th percentile, the middle of the bell curve, etc. I am not 6' tall, to these women apparently anything less than 6'tall is really short, so by that definition I am really short.



How about a woman who isn't fat, doesn't have kids, is educated (I am all these things). The only double standard I have is I want a woman who is younger than me, because as stated above most women in this country as they age get fat and ugly. At least mid 20's to 30's, ideally 25-30. I don't think that is asking too much because in real life women don't seem to care as much. In real life being with a guy who is 5, 7, or even in some cases 10-15 years older is no big deal to them. I also look younger than I am, I still get carded occasionally, so maybe that is why in real life younger women still show some interest. My dad was tall, dark and handsome, taller than I am. He is in his mid 60's now but I remember when I was travelling with him when he was in his 40's and 50's there were plenty of 20 something and 30 something women coming on to him, showing IOI's, at his age(when I was still in high school and too young for them). So I don't even think the age thing is necessairly a double standard. When he took me sailing in Cosa Rica and there were women all over him. Of course he was married and didn't do anything, but he obviously could have if he wanted to.
As far as education and wealth, I have a doctorate but quit my job as a professor to pursue my dream as a photographer, so right now I admit I am not rich but I think I can still make plenty of money in the future. As far as upbringig I come from a "stable" family as well, in fact, I come form a wealthy family, which I assume is what the other poster really meant by "stable". However, I do not even use that as part of my criteria, flaunt it or show them any indications of this, especially to women I don't know. In our family it is rude to talk about money and my parentls encouraged us from a young age to not do this(I am annonymous here)- in any case it is not my money at the moment except some paper assets I have no control over, and it has no bearing on who I am as a person anyway. At least no more than how tall I am, unlike women who can diet and excercise to not be fat, height, like family wealth, is a matter of luck being born to the right parents.
Here's a little tidbit you should ponder regarding age. If you can find a woman who fits your other standards who is closer to your age and fit, don't overlook those ones. If a woman is still in good shape over 30 she is more likely to stay in good shape throughout life because she clearly has embraced a healthy lifestyle. If you want children...especially just one child or a couple within a couple of years of each other, don't rule out women in their early 30's who don't have children yet. I had my youngest child at 34. She turned 7 a few days ago and I am still just as fertile now as I was when I had her according to my OB/GYN. Women in their early 30's still have plenty of time to have children is the point I'm making. If they have adopted a healthy lifestyle they will have healthy pregnancies and are less likely to balloon up like a beached whale. The younger the woman, the more likely having children will radically change her body and looks.

I'm not saying you have to give up on the age range you prefer...just advising you to the advantages of not closing the door on slightly older women. Bottom line...how well a woman maintains her appearance is always dependent on how healthy a lifestyle she has adopted and if a woman has reached her early 30's without falling apart it's a really good indicator that she takes good care of herself and will continue to do that.
 
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