“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Womens expectations at online dating sites

Marcopolo

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I was checking out some of these dating sites tonight and I cannot believe how ridiculously picky most of these women were. Some of the things I noticed- the majority of women said they wanted a guy within 4 years of their own age, either younger or older. Some even went so far as to say they only date men their age or younger. Most of the women even in their late 20's and early 30's put 35 as their cutoff limit. Apparently they think a guy suddently looses most of his hair(and the rest turns grey), and suddenly grows a potbelly the day aftert his 35th birthday. Of course this narrow age requirement was usually in addition to a laundry list of other ridiculous requirements they listed for men who are probably completely out of their league.
The first one I looked at randomly was an overweight single mother with tattoos all over her body, she wanted someone who was at least 6'2' (she was 5'4") , dark hair, athletic, makes at least 75,000 a year, and is no more than 4 years older than her- yeah, right, good luck lady :roll:
Some other examples, and I didn't even have to look hard to find these, in fact I had to look hard to find a woman with realistic expectations.

her: 32., HB6, 5'5" single mother: wanted: guy30-36, 5'10";

her: 33, HB4, "curvy" i.e. overweight but at least had a nice face or she would be a 3, has kids, 5'6"; wanted: age 25-35, at least 6'0"

her: 29, 5'2", stated "average" body but when I looked at her photo she was obviously overweight, decent face but chubby, had a kid, she of course wanted a guiy 27-35, at least 5'10"

The disparity is such between real life and online that just today I was flirting with a 22 year old hottie at the vitamin store and got her number, and I am 37. Where do these women get off with these "reguirements" are there really a bunch of 6'2" dark haired athletic men who make six figure incomes that are banging these chicks off these sites? If there really is such an overabundance of men as these dating sites suggest we need a big war in the Middle East or something just to get rid of the men glut
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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This should tell you one thing. How ridiculous expectations of men have become in general. People see Myspace and dating websites as being a magnet for attention *****s and the desperate. They are, but they are the perfect example of the way society is going. Woman actually feel they deserve a man who is wealthy, attractive, intelligent, funny and masculine yet they fail to be attractive, wealthy, intelligent, funny or feminine themselves. Online dating can be worthwhile, because it allows both parties to filter through a list of available partners when pressed for time.

However, its been invaded by attention *****s and princesses along with a gazillion AFC’s who should grow a pair of balls and just approach women on the street. Women in general, the ones you meet at bars or nightclubs or even down the library, are the same people you meet online. They are just more open to discuss what they are really looking for. Which in most cases is way above what they can offer themselves. Unfortunatly, Oprah and Cosmo has created a nation of people who believe ***** belongs on a pedestal, and the result is women who think that they can be overweight trailer trash while their perfect partner should be Prince William with a 12 inch ****.
 

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and the result is women who think that they can be overweight trailer trash while their perfect partner should be Prince William with a 12 inch ****.

:crackup:



honestly, tho, if all they're posting are some age and height requirements, that doesn't seem to be asking all that much. Are you real short or something and that's why it's bothering you? Surely there are plenty of women on the site whose filters you satisfy.
 

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However, its been invaded by attention *****s and princesses along with a gazillion AFC’s who should grow a pair of balls and just approach women on the street. Women in general, the ones you meet at bars or nightclubs or even down the library, are the same people you meet online. They are just more open to discuss what they are really looking for. Which in most cases is way above what they can offer themselves. Unfortunatly, Oprah and Cosmo has created a nation of people who believe ***** belongs on a pedestal, and the result is women who think that they can be overweight trailer trash while their perfect partner should be Prince William with a 12 inch ****.

AMEN...

I find it entertaining to watch how some of these overweight trailer trash women (just to name a few) walk around like their $hit doesn't stink. They have this misguided perception (due to society's constant need to kiss women's a$$) that they are all queens or something special. Amazing...

You can always tell which girls have this warped image of themselves because they are usually trying to fit into a outfit that is meant for someone 50lbs lighter. I'm sure you guys have seen this type walking around the malls.
 

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This is kind of ironically funny. You guys have the same kind of sense of entitlement as the women being complained about in this thread. It's not just the women who think they deserve everything to be handed to them on a silver platter and that they don't have to be as perfect as what they demand of the opposite sex.

I admit that I have very high dating standards as well..but I can also say that I DO hold myself to the very same high expectations that I do guys. If you don't hold the same kind of ideals for yourself as you do others than you are a hypocrite. Just as there are many women at online dating site who are hypocrites, there are a lot of hypocrites on here as well.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It's not just the women who think they deserve everything to be handed to them on a silver platter

Good point Wyldfire, that is a very true statement. Society as a whole is full of spoiled and lazy individuals who want 'everything' handed to them on a silver platter. But I think women 'expect' it more than men do...but that's just my humble opinion.
 

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Obsidian said:
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honestly, tho, if all they're posting are some age and height requirements, that doesn't seem to be asking all that much. Are you real short or something and that's why it's bothering you? Surely there are plenty of women on the site whose filters you satisfy.
It's not much to ask for.
but from wat i experienced, most dating "requirements" that women put up on these sites are all lies, to make it look like they are not easy and only take the finest guys. when in reality they will take any decent guy that talks to them.. jus talk to them if u want them, and dont worry about fitting their bills.
 

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Datings sites are only good for finding women from other countries.
Americanized hors are usless trash and they only think of themselves.
 

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This is kind of ironically funny. You guys have the same kind of sense of entitlement as the women being complained about in this thread
I agree with this, I think many guys are way to choosy with the whole, "well, i have this girl whose HB9.4 but I don't want to bang anything under HB9.5, what am i going to do, booohoo, its all over for me".

I do agree with OP though, women on dating sites are extremely picky, leaving little choice for those of us or are not "very attractive" or are not tall or dark or handsome.

I also notice the more the write in the narrative, as in "oh i want a nice man who will treat me well, bla bla lie lie" the more picky they will be in terms of looks, going as far as picking a specific eye color, I mean common, small wonder she's single!!
 

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I read an article not too long ago about differences in flaws in men and women's dating profiles...I'll see if I can find the article.

Women:
-Tend to list off EVERY quality they want in a man, to such detail that prospective men are too intimidated to reply, thinking they'll be rejected for not fulfilling all her criteria
-Too much chit-chat in the "describe yourself" portion and not enough focusing on really important things to include in it

Men:
-Tend to list their expectations of their "dreamgirl" like this: 5'4" and 120lbs. Women look at that and think that, because they're 5'6" and 135lbs, they aren't good enough.
-Not enough personal information in the "describe yourself" portion, or generic, boring descriptions

While there are heavier ladies seeking Prince Charming (with carriage), there are flabby 45-year-old men seeking 22-year-old women...we're all at fault.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I agree with this, I think many guys are way to choosy with the whole, "well, i have this girl whose HB9.4 but I don't want to bang anything under HB9.5, what am i going to do, booohoo, its all over for me".

That's not true at all. I don't know where Wyldfire is getting this bullsh!t from, but many of the guys here are just aiming for HB7s-8s who aren't b1tches and who they can just get along with reasonably well. (Most people on this forum acknowledge that HB9s and 10s tend to be more trouble than they're worth.)

Considering that HB5 is actually below average utilizing the normal criteria, HB7s and above probably make up about 60% or more of the youthful female population, depending on where you live.


And moreover, the guys on this site, as a whole, are striving to improve themselves to make themselves worthy of good women.
 

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sca_p said:
read an article not too long ago about differences in flaws in men and women's dating profiles...
I agree on the "describe yourself" part, but feel that the men are not as selective regarding physical criteria as women, the opposite of the common beleive that men are shallow and women are not. Maybe I haven't browsed enough male profiles, but I definitly get the feeling women are more picky.

You're right, they do list every criteria, but what does that help those of us who do not have the right color eyes??? Its a red flag at least that this women is single cos she's a b**ch and we save time writing I guess!
 

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I'm 27, degree holding, about to start a masters, have a high paying job, work out 3 days a week and am becoming more chiseled day by day, eat very healthily, come from a stable family, 5'10 190lbs, have "beautiful eyes," (every girl I meet and random cashiers and all that say something) know what I want and have granite stoned well-defined morals even if they often conflict with the general population's.

Expecting to get an attractive, young, childless, non-fat, educated, intelligent, non-whorish, respectable woman is not "entitlement." I earned it and am continuing to earn it. It's just a shame that these things are nearly unobtainable, but I'd rather be alone than compromise down to a woman (I mean girl) who can't work for and achieve some semblance of a high level. The fact that many of these guys are even here probably says something about the fact that they are trying to EARN a great woman, not just expect one to fall into their lap.

No, I'm not arrogant, and I have plenty of minor flaws I'm trying to iron out a bit but I'm just trying to make a point. Most women, or people rather, can't even manage to get under control, or even bother to attempt to correct, their MAJOR flaws, yet are going to expect me to lower myself to their level? Pass.

Life REALLY isn't that hard. Most of us here are in the United States, Canada, and Western Europe. We have it easy. So much damn luxury that you have no excuse for not bettering yourself in some way unless you're just lazy and weak, but at least admit that - that's at least respectable rather than playing the "I'm awesome" and deserve all the good stuffs card when you obviously have not earned anything.

I don't even really demand that much. I'd be happy with a fairly nice, intelligent HB7 or so. But apparently having a decent moral ground and respecting men in general is a huge problem for women. I have plenty of quirks that I watch out for in women and I might even give them the short end of the stick in my mind until they prove otherwise, but I don't ******dly hold it against them and they all get their fair chance. I'm not even sure I blame women really since we as a society let them get away with so much bullsh1t with no repercussions at all so frequently. They're only taking what they can get, right?
 

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Obsidian said:
That's not true at all. I don't know where Wyldfire is getting this bullsh!t from, but many of the guys here are just aiming for HB7s-8s who aren't b1tches and who they can just get along with reasonably well
Yeah, you're right, I was a bit harsh, I was generalizing too much.
 

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I say that anyone can ask for whatever they'd like in a companion but don't be surprised if you are rebuffed if you don't have equivalent qualities to offer in exchange. Many from both genders don't quite realize that.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Americanized hors are usless trash and they only think of themselves

I wonder how many guys feel this way, we should start a poll. I've heard similar statements from people who have traveled the world and dated girls from other countries.
 

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Here are a few comments regarding American women that I found. What are your views fellas?



1: I will go one step further and differentiate between Western women vs. non-Western women. This is not just an American phenomenon, most women in Western countries have that cold, *****y, superficial, stuck up attitude. A lot of Western women hold themselves as the pure center of the relationship. If the men don't fit a rigid and unrealistic criteria or she doesn't feel the man can take care of her enough (even if she has a higher paying job) then she will drop him like a hot potato, regardless of his character or commitment to the relationship.

Popular Myth: Western men looking for foreign wives are only seeking subservient slaves.

Truth: Most Western men today are evolved and modern and truly believe in the 50/50 system. Most Western men are dismayed by the lack of sincerity of Western women. I can do my own laundry and cooking thank you!

Yes, Latin American and Eastern European women do make better mates because both come from more conservative and family oriented cultures where relationships and commitment are actually revered.

2: Honestly I wish I could have found an American wife with all the qualities of my foreign wife. I could not, because they do not exist. Here is a partial list of her loveliness

1: Sensible and good with money.
2: Genuine commitment.
3: Very family oriented.
4: Hard working.
5: She does not have to diet to look great

Foreign women are comfortable in their femininity. As a male I am attracted to this. And I love her with all my heart.

I believe that American women have priced themselves out of the marketplace. Too needy, too many headgames, too easy to divorce.

Not many foreign men want American wives either.

3: American women..
- highest maintenance (I've never heard of a foreign bride demanding her husband buy expensive house & cars)
- fattest in the world
- most likely to cheat
- highest rate of divorce (60% - US-US marriages; 20% - US-foreign marriages)
- largest payout in divorce court (you'll be ass-raped for everything you earned, plus most of what you will earn for years to come)
- *****iest
- most likely to nag constantly
- most likely to believe in feminism and "equality"
- most likely to hate men
- spend least amount of time with her children
- worst at cooking and cleaning
- ****ed & chucked by tons of guys before tricking you into marriage
 

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Kings_royalty said:
Americanized hors are usless trash and they only think of themselves

I wonder how many guys feel this way, we should start a poll. I've heard similar statements from people who have traveled the world and dated girls from other countries.
It's a sad truth... :(
I rarely come across a girl i like here in the states and most of the time she's still got a couple screws loose in her head.
It's that whole Princess syndrome.
 

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A couple more I found. I'm sure these posts will spawn some interesting comments.


4: Every foreign girl I've met was superior in every conceivable way to any other girl I've known, from attractiveness to personality.

5: I have a foreign Latino girl and she blows away American women. I can speak from experience of living with my girl for a month. I could never go back to American trash women. It has changed my life for the better, made me look at American women in a different light.

6: After many many years of dealing with American women, I've hit an interesting point. I've lost ALL sexual interest in them, in fact I just about puke walking down the sidewalk on any day, seeing all those ****ty, rude, mean, snotty American women.

Strange thing, cause for so long I've been quite a horndog, chasing women at all levels. I'm still totally attracted to foreign women...Indians, Orientals, Europeans.

But show me an American chick and I basically couldn't care less. Tell me how "beautiful" she is...doesn't matter. I suppose from an intellectual viewpoint I can see the beauty, but it's not any more attractive to me than...let's say...admiring a beautiful horse or a well-groomed cat. OK, admirable, but not sexy folks.

They say that sex is 90% mental...well, my mind has rejected American women completely.

7: Since I've been traveling overseas I have met many nice Japanese, Russian, and Spanish women. I can tell you this....the women are so much better. I want a lady that, when I get home from work, would rather kiss me than scream at me for some trivial reason like I didn't mow the lawn. I can do without the nagging thanks. To all my fellow American men... American women are easily replaceable...go Asian, or Russian, even European (except British, Italian, and French women) and you can't go wrong. Experience is the best teacher.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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