"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Women who make you wait forever while they buy clothes

froznie

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Yesterday I had an argument with my gf

Basically, I'm the kind of guy who can't tolerate when you're in a shopping mall with a girl and she's like "omg look specials!" in a clothing store and then spends an hour looking at all the clothes and shoes etc while you're sitting there waiting for her.

I have no patience for this.

So what I do is, when I'm with a girl and she tells me she wants to check out such or such store, I just say something like "fine, take your time, I'm going to go check out other places, text me when you're done." And so while she's taking her time choosing clothes I don't have to wait around for her I can do other stuff, like go in stores that actually interest me or get some pizza at the food court, etc.

So anyway the problem with my current girlfriend is that she's got a US cell phone and this is Canada, so she shuts her phone off when she's here to avoid roaming charges. So basically you can only communicate with her through landline or email. And so it turns out we were walking in this big shopping mall and all of a sudden she wants to buy shoes. So I go in with her and she starts opening one box after another and finally she's got three shoes to choose from, and so she puts one pair on, then the other, and the other, and then she puts the first pair again. Finally, she's been ogling those three ****ing shoes for fifteen minutes and I'm like "just pick one they're all good" and she's like "no, I got to be sure."

So basically I'm like "OK I'll wait for you outside." I went out but since she has no cell phone I couldn't really go too far because she wouldn't be able to text me when she's done, and there wasn't really anything interesting in that section of the mall but anyway.

So then after about fifteen more minutes she walks out of the shoe store and she's super pissed off because she didn't see me right away when walking out of the store, and she says something like "I don't understand why you left me alone in there I really wished you would've helped me choose."

I got mad and I said that it's not my fault she's too cheap to get a canadian cell phone, but I find it disrespectful that she would expect me to just sit there like a puppy while she's taking her time like that and I have nothing to do. Her answer is something like "well you must not have much experience with women because all women do this." I told her I didn't give a **** what other women and she better get a canadian cell phone because of she does that **** again I'll leave her.

Anyway, she didn't say a word on the drive back and looked super offended/shocked/etc.

Is it me that is just too intolerant? I'm the nicest guy you could find but I have zero patience for when women expect men to wait for them while they spend hours choosing clothes. My mom used to do that to me when I was a kid and it would send me in screaming fits. It just feels so disrespectful that someone thinks you can just wait around for them like that. I don't do this to them - if I want to spend thirty minutes in a video game store I go by myself.

What do you guys think?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I wait for my fiancee but she has to either buy sexy cosplay clothes as well or new underwear for me.

If she does not I go for a walk, coffee or read something in the park.
 

El Payaso

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I don't have this problem. I don't go shopping with my gf too often. The few times I do go, she is very quick. She doesn't spend ages deciding what to buy. She's even a quick dresser and doesn't spend ages like many other women.

The only thing I can suggest is to simply not go to the mall with her. I never saw the point in going shopping with a woman. It's simply pointless to me. Unless we're going shopping for myself then I don't go.
 

MAYALL

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Let her go shopping by herself. Nothing worse than watching a woman drag a beta man around by the nose shopping at the mall.
 

Infern0

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Don't be "mall boyfriend" It's tragic.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I do what OP does. If I have a hint that she's going to buy lingerie or something similar, then I'll follow her around... even into the dressing room.

Worse case, have some games on your phone or peruse the internet while you wait in the "Man Chair"
 

Fireballs

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^ Never sit in the "man chair" unless she is trying on sexy lingerie to show you.

I try and avoid shopping with my gf but she is pretty quick/low maintenance so I don't mind the odd occasion.

Also when she sh!t tests you again about not being her puppy in the shoe store don't act defensively. Agree with her and then turn it up a notch. Do this with confidence and a playful attitude and if she plays along or looks at you with a 'did you really just say that' look, you're doing it right.

E.g.

Her: You left me alone in there or Why did you leave me

You: Aww it's cute how much you miss me

or

You: I know right it's terrible. That's it, I'm going to handcuff myself to you so this tragedy never happens again.

You get the drift.. Never take them seriously. Seriously.
 
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