“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

Women who complain "guys just want to get off"

AttackFormation

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 2, 2014
Messages
4,062
Reaction score
3,617
Age
33
Location
Sweden
You see this on OLD. Ime these women are not always but usually the same ones who either insinuate sex, or outright post sexual pictures and texts. I've been thinking about this for a while but didn't want to make a thread for it, however I keep seeing the pattern.

My question is, do these women understand what they are doing or not. Do they just not realize or understand that different behaviors and signals create different results? Or do they realize and that's why they complain, but their self esteem is too low and paradoxically also too dependent on the validation and pumping & dumping to act on it? And lastly, how common is this in women in general, am I just seeing it concentrated in OLD?
 
Last edited:

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

devilkingx2

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 9, 2013
Messages
4,522
Reaction score
2,229
Location
NYC
1. Some of them don't self reflect enough to realize that aside from sex there's no other reason to tolerate them

2. Some of them are dumb hypocrites that portray themselves as sexually as possible then get mad at men for being "pervy" (I've seen girls get mad at comments on instagram selfies that are borderline porn lol)

3. Some of them are delusional/naive. Thinking that OLD isn't about sex as if anyone looking for a date isn't trying to get laid
 
Last edited:

sangheilios

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 25, 2018
Messages
2,650
Reaction score
2,760
LOL I think a lot of women just have literally no self awareness at all, it's the only possible explanation because I don't think anyone could troll like that haha.

Edit: I see stuff like this in real life, where women will interact with a man to the point that is highly suggestive of being interested, possibly even wanting to have sex, and then when he makes a move she seems confused by it.
 

The_411

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 20, 2005
Messages
962
Reaction score
149
It means their personality sucks or they have no ambition
 

sangheilios

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 25, 2018
Messages
2,650
Reaction score
2,760
1. Some of them don't self reflect enough to realize that aside from sex there's no other reason to tolerate them

2. Some of them are dumb hypocrites that portray themselves as sexually as possible then get mad at men for being "pervy" (I've seen girls get mad at comments on instagram selfies that are borderline porn lol)

3. Some of them are delusional/naive. Thinking that OLD isn't about sex as if anyone looking for a date isn't trying to get laid
I honestly think that a lot of this has to do with how desensitized we are to overtly sexual displays on social media and see it as "normal". There are a few girls I've met at the gym over the years who upload content to instagram that is borderline porn, like you mentioned. They'd literally have short videos of them turned around doing booty poses like they wanted to get mounted. Another girl I know uploaded a video of her doing an exercise where she is on her hands and knees doing a kick and you can see the outline of her kitty due to the leggings. This was recorded directly behind her lol.

I think a lot of this "confusion" women have when a guy makes a move comes down to them behaving like this because they are looking for attention but not self aware at all. It's almost like an addiction to attention without any thought on the possible consequences of their behavior and when it gets to that point it then turns into a lack of accountability.

Overall, just very immature women who have the mindset of a young teenager or child.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

lamath

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 29, 2018
Messages
2,714
Reaction score
2,659
Age
45
Location
Canada
You see this on OLD. Ime these women are not always but usually the same ones who either insinuate sex, or outright post sexual pictures and texts. I've been thinking about this for a while but didn't want to make a thread for it, however I keep seeing the pattern.

My question is, do these women understand what they are doing or not. Do they just not realize or understand that different behaviors and signals create different results? Or do they realize and that's why they complain, but their self esteem is too low and paradoxically also too dependent on the validation and pumping & dumping to act on it? And lastly, how common is this in women in general, am I just seeing it concentrated in OLD?
Looking at some pic id say more than 50% are just clueless

Im seriously wondering after reading their intro and looking at pics how some of those women get guys.They might be good looking but if you got a head on your shoulder all you see is red flag
 

AttackFormation

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 2, 2014
Messages
4,062
Reaction score
3,617
Age
33
Location
Sweden
LOL I think a lot of women just have literally no self awareness at all, it's the only possible explanation because I don't think anyone could troll like that haha.
Haha, well like with the example that made me finally create this thread, she makes a status complaining that guys just want to get off with her and then when you go to her profile it's literally pictures like her laying half naked in bed with her face cut out captioned "someone come and play.". Then there's another one, complains she can't find a guy, and her whole album is just pictures and pictures of her showing her naked or half-naked body. And those are just two examples out of the countless ones. I used to suspect they are simply pathological, but there seems to be a general trend.


The more sexually entitled the worse the sex is ime. Also, who wants to take a final exam every time you have sex, boring.
What do you mean?
 

AttackFormation

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 2, 2014
Messages
4,062
Reaction score
3,617
Age
33
Location
Sweden
No self awareness at all, not even sure the cause of that. Even the cluster bs I dated were 100x more self aware.

Sexual entitlement...like picky, sex is more like a sport to them than an expression of intimacy and fun between two lovers. These are the types that would dump the perfect guy on inarticulated sex grounds and feel completely justified.

On the flip side if you sleep with them and they bother to sleep with you again I guess you can take pride in that lol.
This is just speculation, but you know how they'll say things like they won't tell a guy about their past self being different because it "shouldn't" matter? Maybe this is the same thing, and it gets compounded by the fempowerment messages they read, so that their behavior shouldn't matter to finding a boyfriend and so reality should accommodate them. This then gets further strengthened when combined with the other phenomenon, their sheer addiction to and self esteem dependence on validation which makes them not want to stop doing sexualizing themselves.

So what it is is a both learned and ego-fueled absolution and denial of accountability.
 
Last edited:

mrgoodstuff

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
17,586
Reaction score
11,948
Location
DFW, TX
1. Some of them don't self reflect enough to realize that aside from sex there's no other reason to tolerate them

2. Some of them are dumb hypocrites that portray themselves as sexually as possible then get mad at men for being "pervy" (I've seen girls get mad at comments on instagram selfies that are borderline porn lol)

3. Some of them are delusional/naive. Thinking that OLD isn't about sex as if anyone looking for a date isn't trying to get laid
They want to be worshipped and stretch guys out for dates.
 

mrgoodstuff

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
17,586
Reaction score
11,948
Location
DFW, TX
Haha, well like with the example that made me finally create this thread, she makes a status complaining that guys just want to get off with her and then when you go to her profile it's literally pictures like her laying half naked in bed with her face cut out captioned "someone come and play.". Then there's another one, complains she can't find a guy, and her whole album is just pictures and pictures of her showing her naked or half-naked body. And those are just two examples out of the countless ones. I used to suspect they are simply pathological, but there seems to be a general trend.




What do you mean?
Dont do this dont do that she wants it precisely her way.
 
R

Ranger

Guest
You see this on OLD. Ime these women are not always but usually the same ones who either insinuate sex, or outright post sexual pictures and texts. I've been thinking about this for a while but didn't want to make a thread for it, however I keep seeing the pattern.

My question is, do these women understand what they are doing or not. Do they just not realize or understand that different behaviors and signals create different results? Or do they realize and that's why they complain, but their self esteem is too low and paradoxically also too dependent on the validation and pumping & dumping to act on it? And lastly, how common is this in women in general, am I just seeing it concentrated in OLD?
To get validation and to flaunt sexual power. Period.
There is some competition in there as well.

The slvt cavalry. Ta-da
 
R

Ranger

Guest
No accountability at all, which can only be due to pride. Pride built on a house of cards to mask low self esteem on a level we rarely experience. Imagine wanting to die because of all the people you have hurt, truly knowing for a fact you are evil and worthless...makes the problem of low self esteem that much worse.
Thus @Spaz and the word “redemption”.
I man can offer redemption, protection & femininity with his version of love.
 

AttackFormation

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 2, 2014
Messages
4,062
Reaction score
3,617
Age
33
Location
Sweden
No accountability at all, which can only be due to pride. Pride built on a house of cards to mask low self esteem on a level we rarely experience. Imagine wanting to die because of all the people you have hurt, truly knowing for a fact you are evil and worthless...makes the problem of low self esteem that much worse.
Poetic description... and funny you bring that up... because that ex plate used to tell me on occasion when we were getting to know each other, kind of warning me really while chuckling about it, that she (foggy memory, trying to paraphrase) could be mean and callous if she didn't care about somebody. She was very young at the time so maybe she was just trying to impress me with how cool she was.
 

devilkingx2

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 9, 2013
Messages
4,522
Reaction score
2,229
Location
NYC
I honestly think that a lot of this has to do with how desensitized we are to overtly sexual displays on social media and see it as "normal". There are a few girls I've met at the gym over the years who upload content to instagram that is borderline porn, like you mentioned. They'd literally have short videos of them turned around doing booty poses like they wanted to get mounted. Another girl I know uploaded a video of her doing an exercise where she is on her hands and knees doing a kick and you can see the outline of her kitty due to the leggings. This was recorded directly behind her lol.

I think a lot of this "confusion" women have when a guy makes a move comes down to them behaving like this because they are looking for attention but not self aware at all. It's almost like an addiction to attention without any thought on the possible consequences of their behavior and when it gets to that point it then turns into a lack of accountability.

Overall, just very immature women who have the mindset of a young teenager or child.
I think it depends on the woman

I don't think any adult woman is naive enough to not know how sexual their posts are

Generally it's either they have some dumb feminist mindset where it's their god given right to walk naked in public but any who dares looketh upon her without permission shalt have their eyes stricken out of thine head

Or the far more common: it's okay if she likes you but you're a disgusting creepy perverted loser if she doesn't. Apparently she thinks she can police who sees her public posts instead of being smart and ****ing with the permissions so that only hot single guys can see her stories lmao.

I'd wager it's like less than 5% who legitimately have no idea what could be sexual about posing in their underwear
 

devilkingx2

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 9, 2013
Messages
4,522
Reaction score
2,229
Location
NYC
Haha, well like with the example that made me finally create this thread, she makes a status complaining that guys just want to get off with her and then when you go to her profile it's literally pictures like her laying half naked in bed with her face cut out captioned "someone come and play."
This is a textbook example of the whole, thinking you can pick and choose who responds to your public posts and how thing.

She wanted 6'4 lawyers to play with her but she got 5'6 fortnite addicts instead.

Then there's another one, complains she can't find a guy, and her whole album is just pictures and pictures of her showing her naked or half-naked body.
Okay this one actually makes sense.

Her posts seek male attention and her complaint is that she isn't getting enough male attention

Seems like it checks out logically to me
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

AttackFormation

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 2, 2014
Messages
4,062
Reaction score
3,617
Age
33
Location
Sweden
Okay this one actually makes sense.

Her posts seek male attention and her complaint is that she isn't getting enough male attention

Seems like it checks out logically to me
Well she was complaining that guys don't stay around for anything but sex or guys are only interested in sex when they contact her, basically. And she makes semi regular posts saying that. This is what I wasn't getting. Not that they don't understand that sexual pictures are sexual, but the blindness to the effects their behavior has on what they are supposedly pining for. And that's how I ended up with the "absolution and denial of accountability" theory in this thread, haha. They simply think their own behavior "shouldn't matter" to finding the kind of relationship they want, and if there are no guys looking to wife her up, it's the guys' fault for not doing it. In a certain way you can see how this is true in that guys shouldn't deceive her, but it's an immature mindset in that you have to deal with reality, causes have effects and she doesn't accept that the effects in her romantic life have causes from her.
 
Last edited:

Who Dares Win

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 16, 2012
Messages
7,427
Reaction score
5,805
Most women nowadays do not offer anything worth outside their body...actually that wouldnt even be that bad considering that most women are good for sex only but bring so many problems and drama with it that sometime the squeeze is not worth the juice.

Women that complain about guys going only after sex with them are not any different than guys complaining about being friendzoned, in order to have someone to both give you intimacy and commitment it takes both to be attractive and have a good personality.

Guys lacking look get friendzoned and girls lacking personality get fvck buddy zoned.
 

devilkingx2

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 9, 2013
Messages
4,522
Reaction score
2,229
Location
NYC
Well she was complaining that guys don't stay around for anything but sex or guys are only interested in sex when they contact her, basically. And she makes semi regular posts saying that. This is what I wasn't getting. Not that they don't understand that sexual pictures are sexual, but the blindness to the effects their behavior has on what they are supposedly pining for. And that's how I ended up with the "absolution and denial of accountability" theory in this thread, haha. They simply think their own behavior "shouldn't matter" to finding the kind of relationship they want, and if there are no guys looking to wife her up, it's the guys' fault for not doing it. In a certain way you can see how this is true in that guys shouldn't deceive her, but it's an immature mindset in that you have to deal with reality, causes have effects and she doesn't accept that the effects in her romantic life have causes from her.
I don't think there's anything a woman can do to avoid this tbh.

All guys want sex, some guys want a relationship too or are at least open to it. Guys who don't want sex wouldn't bother meeting a girl.

It's a girls job to weed out guys that'll ghost her once they get laid whilst also actually giving a reason to keep dating her for more than just sex for the guys who aren't strictly sex only in their minds.

If she tried to be less sexual, she'd only be less attractive and more easily ignored, lessening the chance that she's gonna meet ANY men at all.

Remember the natural order of things is that you hook up/hang out/date until you end up getting together, that's pretty much how a normal relationship starts.
 

Roober

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 2, 2016
Messages
2,372
Reaction score
2,118
I think it's far simpler than that. To me, I see it as w0manese for "I havent had good sex in a long time".

If a man guides the relationship, then he is the ultimate determinant of the quality of the sex. If she is a lousy lay, I certainly wouldnt fvck her more than once.
 
Top