Women overestimate a man’s abundance

[tksniper]

How many times have you had a cute girl act nervous and shy around you only for you to be desperate after the bar closes and the party ends?

This phenomenon only exists during the social media age. After the party is over, a typical 6/10 woman can go online and enjoy her infinite validation and endless amount of d1cks trying to bone her.

Her crush is most likely going home to jerk off to his favorite tshirt.

The game is weird/rigged for average women. But most hot women have no idea how bad the average guy has it. So she can afford to be shy, miss all windows, be passive, expect him to read her extremely subtle signs, etc.

So what options does the average guy have? He can try to be more aggressive but then he’ll look incongruent because in her eyes, the cool guy in her fantasy is supposed to be effortless.

This represents a weird misconnection between a hot chick and a guy she is into. And social media is to blame for this misconnect.

So what is the solution?

The solution is obvious but most guys miss it. It is to only to escalate on HER efforts.

Now you guys are probably confused. I just said don’t be aggressive, yet I also said escalate on her efforts.

Where is the happy medium? It is right after you FEEL she tried to get your attention.

Most guys escalate when they feel they got the WOMAN’S attention. This makes no sense to her because she never made an effort. YOU made the effort, not her.

When a woman is flirting with some random guy to get your attention? Escalate.

When a woman is looking your way and flipping her hair? Escalate.

When a woman is giving you proximity? Escalate.

Where most guys have it all wrong is that they’ll tell a joke or try to DHV (demonstrate high value) and then they’ll try to escalate. That’s YOUR effort dufus, not hers.

You = Dominant attractive presence

Her = Indirectly making an effort to get your attention

You = Escalate

SHE HAS TO MAKE THE EFFORT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE YOU CAN ESCALATE!

If you don’t escalate on women making an effort to get your attention, you are completely worthless to them. Only sexual tension makes women interested. This sounds harsh but it’s reality.

In her mind she has no idea your fate is to jerk off to the sleeve of your favorite sweater. She thinks you have options. That’s why she is overestimating your abundance and being coy/indirect.

If any woman makes any type of effort = escalate.

Don’t even think about it. Install Elon Musk’s neurolink into your brain and program yourself to always escalate on a woman’s effort, no matter how indirect it is.

She isn’t indirect because she is trying to play games. She genuinely overestimates your abundance because she is projecting her own infinite abundance of free d1cks to your reality. Social media has skewed the game for women.

Our power is to escalate on women’s efforts to get our attention. And you can have an IQ of negative 500 to pull this off, hence all the dumb guys getting laid.

The higher value you are, the more indirect she’ll be and overestimate your abundance into the stratosphere.

Woman = projection

Man = Actual action

 

[BaronOfHair]

How many times have you had a cute girl act nervous and shy around you only for you to be desperate after the bar closes and the party?

Since discovering that desperation drives off anyone and everyone who's worthwhile, I've gone out of my way to neither appear nor BE desperate. Life's been much saner subsequently

 

[tksniper]

Since discovering that desperation drives off anyone and everyone who's worthwhile, I've gone out of my way to neither appear nor BE desperate. Life's been much saner subsequently

You actually cannot fake non desperation. you can only go out with a purpose. I usually go out to coffee shops even on Friday and Saturday nights with the intent of learning more about my craft( selling life insurance and Medicare), and women give me way more windows then if I were to go out with the intent of getting laid.

Women are weird creatures. Be about your purpose and they will want your attention. But as soon as you say “here I am ladies, I’m all yours”, they all run for the hills.

Really the only solution is to have an itinerary of purposeful activities that gives you value, and make sure those activities are out in public around women. You’ll see the difference. Way more women will want your attention when you are on some type of mission.

 

[plumber]

i like the idea. assume woman has high interest or see you as high value until you talk and show her it is not true.

 

[tksniper]

i like the idea. assume woman has high interest or see you as high value until you talk and show her it is not true.

Women are all about subtlety. In 2025 women indirectly trying to get your attention = her genuine effort to seduce you.

 

[tksniper]

i like the idea. assume woman has high interest or see you as high value until you talk and show her it is not true.

Your frame is probably off. Your frame should be I am rewarding her for making an effort to seduce me, not I’m going to try to seduce her when she is already trying to seduce me. That’s when she’ll get the weird incongruent vibes lol.

 

[tksniper]

We live in a weird society that says a woman only has to exist and a man has to do 100 approaches a week. From that standard alone the average female 6 becomes an 8 and a male 6 becomes a 3.

As men we never had to approach, we simply just had to exist and pursue our purpose. Women will give us signs. That is the only TIME we have to make a move.

Do things daily that brings value into your life. And only escalate when women make an effort to get your attention.

 

[BaronOfHair]

You actually cannot fake non desperation. you can only go out with a purpose. I usually go out to coffee shops even on Friday and Saturday nights with the intent of learning more about my craft( selling life insurance and Medicare), and women give me way more windows then if I were to go out with the intent of getting laid

Yep, thus I've been recommending the following https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obliquity_(book) to everyone I encounter. Most of life's most sublime aspects are the byproducts of pursuing and achieving what many contemporary pundits dismisss as "normie goals"

 

[tksniper]

We live in a weird society that says a woman only has to exist and a man has to do 100 approaches a week. From that standard alone the average female 6 becomes an 8 and a male 6 becomes a 3.

As men we never had to approach, we simply just had to exist and pursue our purpose. Women will give us signs. That is the only TIME we have to make a move.

Do things daily that brings value into your life. And only escalate when women make an effort to get your attention.

And when I say “escalate”, I don’t mean try to sleep with her upon the first sign of eye contact.” There are 3 levels to escalation. Stranger -> Personal -> Romantic/sexual

I used to work with a Brazilian guy who couldn’t speak English. Women were always escalating on him from stranger to personal vibe. But as soon as he started acting crazy (he was a drug dealer), women would reneg on their interest. Of course there were women who totally skipped the personal vibe and went straight to sexual/romantic vibe.

When a woman is giving you any kind of signs, the best thing you can do is ask her PERSONAL questions. Like “Where are you from?” This question is not meant to seduce women. It’s not a magic phrase. It’s just a sign back to her that you are escalating towards a personal vibe.

And her responses to you will tell you whether or not she is interested in moving things towards a personal level. If she gives you short answers, just abandon ship.

There have been plenty of times where women tried to get my attention only for me to escalate towards a more personal vibe and for them to freeze up. They just wanted my attention. It happens.

But if she is open to being personal, then I am in.

In fact, in my 41 years of living, “where are you from?” Is the best pickup line. I can tell right away from her reaction if her trying to get my attention was genuine or not.

 

[Sega Genesis]

And when I say “escalate”, I don’t mean try to sleep with her upon the first sign of eye contact.” There are 3 levels to escalation. Stranger -> Personal -> Romantic/sexual

I used to work with a Brazilian guy who couldn’t speak English. Women were always escalating on him from stranger to personal vibe. But as soon as he started acting crazy (he was a drug dealer), women would reneg on their interest. Of course there were women who totally skipped the personal vibe and went straight to sexual/romantic vibe.

When a woman is giving you any kind of signs, the best thing you can do is ask her PERSONAL questions. Like “Where are you from?” This question is not meant to seduce women. It’s not a magic phrase. It’s just a sign back to her that you are escalating towards a personal vibe.

And her responses to you will tell you whether or not she is interested in moving things towards a personal level. If she gives you short answers, just abandon ship.

There have been plenty of times where women tried to get my attention only for me to escalate towards a more personal vibe and for them to freeze up. They just wanted my attention. It happens.

But if she is open to being personal, then I am in.

In fact, in my 41 years of living, “where are you from?” Is the best pickup line. I can tell right away from her reaction if her trying to get my attention was genuine or not.

I really like this post! It actually answered what I had been thinking (as a woman) reading your previous posts, specifically how exactly do you escalate? But you explained so now I don't have to ask!

And what you said about moving/escalating to a more personal vibe (and gauging how she responds) without acting like an overly thirsty horndog was spot on!

The only thing I somewhat disagree with is a man assuming I'm trying to get his attention when all I'm doing is being social and friendly.

I've got a naturally warm and engaging personality (with everyone) and many men misinterpret as a some sort of 'green light' or 'window' to hit on me sexually.... sigh.

But you don't advise a man be aggressive like that so it's all good!

Flirting with another man? Not sure why a man would assume I'm trying to get his attention? I'm sure some women do but that's not always the case.

Me? I'm actually interested in the man I'm flirting with! Hopefully HE is flirting back!

The hair twirling? I'm not a hair twirler lol but OK that's fair!

 

[BillyPilgrim]

And when I say “escalate”, I don’t mean try to sleep with her upon the first sign of eye contact.” There are 3 levels to escalation. Stranger -> Personal -> Romantic/sexual

I used to work with a Brazilian guy who couldn’t speak English. Women were always escalating on him from stranger to personal vibe. But as soon as he started acting crazy (he was a drug dealer), women would reneg on their interest. Of course there were women who totally skipped the personal vibe and went straight to sexual/romantic vibe.

When a woman is giving you any kind of signs, the best thing you can do is ask her PERSONAL questions. Like “Where are you from?” This question is not meant to seduce women. It’s not a magic phrase. It’s just a sign back to her that you are escalating towards a personal vibe.

And her responses to you will tell you whether or not she is interested in moving things towards a personal level. If she gives you short answers, just abandon ship.

There have been plenty of times where women tried to get my attention only for me to escalate towards a more personal vibe and for them to freeze up. They just wanted my attention. It happens.

But if she is open to being personal, then I am in.

In fact, in my 41 years of living, “where are you from?” Is the best pickup line. I can tell right away from her reaction if her trying to get my attention was genuine or not.

I'd make a point to establish kino during the personal phase.

 

[Bingo-Player]

In my experiences with women they are like water if your confident they will flow with you to wherever you want to lead them

If your not confident in yourself they will drown you.

I'd go as far as saying never approach a woman unless you know and believe you can get exactly what you want from her because it won't end very well

 

[Westminster]

And when I say “escalate”, I don’t mean try to sleep with her upon the first sign of eye contact.” There are 3 levels to escalation. Stranger -> Personal -> Romantic/sexual

I used to work with a Brazilian guy who couldn’t speak English. Women were always escalating on him from stranger to personal vibe. But as soon as he started acting crazy (he was a drug dealer), women would reneg on their interest. Of course there were women who totally skipped the personal vibe and went straight to sexual/romantic vibe.

When a woman is giving you any kind of signs, the best thing you can do is ask her PERSONAL questions. Like “Where are you from?” This question is not meant to seduce women. It’s not a magic phrase. It’s just a sign back to her that you are escalating towards a personal vibe.

And her responses to you will tell you whether or not she is interested in moving things towards a personal level. If she gives you short answers, just abandon ship.

There have been plenty of times where women tried to get my attention only for me to escalate towards a more personal vibe and for them to freeze up. They just wanted my attention. It happens.

But if she is open to being personal, then I am in.

In fact, in my 41 years of living, “where are you from?” Is the best pickup line. I can tell right away from her reaction if her trying to get my attention was genuine or not.

Genune query: What do you think is a high interest response to that question? And what would you regard as low interest?

 

[Clockwerk50]

I'm not sure I agree with the main premise of the post, which is that women project their own experience with abundance onto men. A woman's passiveness and patience, in my view, is directly proportional to her level of interest.

When a woman is genuinely attracted to a man, she often concludes that he has abundance and multiple dating options, and it isn't a projection on her part but a conclusion she draws from his actions. The way he talks to her, the emotional "tingles" he creates, and his ability to provide an enjoyable experience all serve as proof of his experience with women and his ability to make the right move at the right time. In short, I believe women perceive a man's abundance because the man demonstrated it to them.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I'd make a point to establish kino during the personal phase.

If after establishing a personal vibe and you're actually vibing and the attraction is there, SHE will!

It's subtle. She will move closer, her leg slightly touching yours, a slight brush/touch on your arm, she'll mirror your movements; it's all done naturally without her even having to think about it!

When she's highly attracted and you're totally vibing!

If you want to escalate further, personally I enjoy the sexual tension the subtlety creates for awhile anyway.

However, I did have an ex passionately kiss me approx 30 minutes after meeting me in person (from an app) so not ruling it out completely.

It really depends in the girl and the sitch.

JMO and experience Billy fwiw.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If after establishing a personal vibe and you're actually vibing and the attraction is there, SHE will!

It's subtle. She will move closer, her leg slightly touching yours, a slight brush/touch on your arm, she'll mirror your movements; it's all done naturally without her even having to think about it!

When she's highly attracted and you're totally vibing!

If you want to escalate further, personally I enjoy the sexual tension the subtly creates for awhile anyway.

However, I did have an ex passionately kiss me approx 30 minutes after meeting me in person (from an app) so not ruling it out completely.

It really depends in the girl and the sitch.

JMO and experience Billy fwiw.

You design your posts to extract as much energy as you can from the male posters here, you know that right?

Dudes, you can do light touching as you talk. You don't have to wait for her ffs.

Being put on ignore Cats.

 

[jhonny9546]

If any woman makes any type of effort = escalate

It seems to work. In words.

In my experience, she makes the effort, you intensify, then for some reason she loses interest.

Then she tries again to intensify, then for some reason she regains interest.

It's an intermittent thing that reminds me of this woman's "low interest" in you, or just a "validation-seeking" attitude.

Really the only solution is to have an itinerary of purposeful activities that gives you value, and make sure those activities are out in public around women. You’ll see the difference. Way more women will want your attention when you are on some type of mission.

Interesting point.

make some real life example about this process of escalation.
for example how you make sure this process works also for people you know yet (let's say you have many women "friends")

 

[Sega Genesis]

Dudes, you can do light touching as you talk. You don't have to wait for her ffs.

Being put on ignore Cats.

I didn't say a man can't do light touching of course he can! FFS.

What I said is that in many cases, a woman will naturally when she's attracted (not as some sort of strategic move)..

But YES! Please do put me on ignore, curious what the hell took you so long and why you continue to engage me.

Nevermind hopefully I'm on ignore anyway, thank gawd.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The vast majority of men are completely invisible to women. When women are talking about men, they are talking about the men that give them the tingles or the men with Money and Status over them or they are placing their own POVs on to men. Women have absolutely zero idea on how shvtty of a life the average male life. For example, Women get hyper jealous of their boyfriends because they assume they can just go out and cheat on the cuff like they can. Your average man cannot just go to Kroger or Publix and cheat on his partner like a woman or Chad could.

 

[plumber]

It seems to work. In words.

In my experience, she makes the effort, you intensify, then for some reason she loses interest.

Then she tries again to intensify, then for some reason she regains interest.

It's an intermittent thing that reminds me of this woman's "low interest" in you, or just a "validation-seeking" attitude.

Interesting point.

make some real life example about this process of escalation.
for example how you make sure this process works also for people you know yet (let's say you have many women "friends")

women are master game players. you just described how push/pull works. doesn't matter if its instinct or planned the result is the same.