Women over 30 are Damaged Goods

[SW15]

For Women Who Want Kids, 'the Sooner the Better': 90 Percent of Eggs Gone By Age 30

A new study by the University of St. Andrews and Edinburgh University shows that women lose about 90 percent of their ovarian eggs by the time they're age 30, making it much more difficult to have a successful pregnancy and healthy baby. Dr. Marie Savard, ABC News medical contributor, discusses...

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Even with 90% of eggs gone, women still get pregnant a lot in their 30s. There's a great thread below about this happening. A bunch of "Last Call" babies with women in their 30s, though some needed IVF to make it happen.

Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere! Life When Your Blue Pill Social Circle Starts Having Babies

Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...

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[HaleyBaron]

I'd need a citation for the claim a woman has lost 90% of her eggs by age 30.

30-something pregnancies are way too common for me to believe a 30 year old has lost 90% of her eggs (Yeah, I'm aware 90% doesn't mean 100%...but 90% is high enough there would be way fewer 30-something pregnancies if a woman really lost 90% of her eggs by age 30).

As much as I'd like to believe a woman my age (33, going on 34) has lost 90+% of her eggs, it just doesn't sound believable.

As one of my professors told my class in college (albeit in a different context): "If it sounds bull$hit, it probably is"

Do you know how difficult it is for a 30 year old to get pregnant? Not from my experience [even though I've came inside plenty of 30+ year olds], but from experiences given by married folks who married late. They have to try a lot before they can get a child. Meanwhile, women below 30 get pregnant way easier. It's not even funny. That's why having a woman with your kids in her 20s is considered prime.

 

[SW15]

Do you know how difficult it is for a 30 year old to get pregnant?

There were some IVF pregnancies in my social circle.

One couple with a 35 year old woman got pregnant on a honeymoon when not actually trying.

Another couple from my social circle had to try for years for a natural conception and the woman had her first baby at 38.

It's super common now for Millennial women with bachelor's degrees to have their first baby after their 30th birthday.

women below 30 get pregnant way easier. It's not even funny.

They do if they aren't on birth control. Birth control use depends on the types of women that men meet. I have tended to meet White women with bachelor's degrees + and office jobs. Those women tend to use birth control in their 20s and early 30s.

I have also followed Iron Rule of Tomassi #5 even before Rollo Tomassi created the rule.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #5
NEVER allow a woman to be in control of the birth.

It's a good idea to use condoms.

There are a lot of 20 somethings and early 30 somethings having protected sex. The male is using a condom and the female is using birth control.

The claim that women over 30 are used goods may be true in some cases, but it's mainly just regurgitated garbage from the red/black pill sphere. There are plenty of hot 30+ women out there who are horny, sexy, and down for business.
Some of the best sex I had were with women in their mid 30's and even 40's. Skill & passion on another level.

every man on Sosuave would have sex with them. But would they commit to them? No chance in hell.

A woman over 30 is damaged goods for commitment , marriage and starting a family, A woman over 30 is priceless for sex, cooking and cleaning,

Heck, I’m sure guys on here would have sex with a 3 times divorced, mother of 2, age of a great grandmother, been naked on the big screen, Jennifer Lopez, 55 years old. Now ask the same guys to “commit” to her? Again, no chance in hell.

This is where the disconnect comes in regarding a women’s age.

There are enough men showing interest in 30s/40s women. Many 30s/40s women have hundreds of men in their swipe queues and also sending them messages on Instagram.

There are more men that will commit to past their prime, damaged goods 30+ women than one would think.

Men are thirsty simps. Remember that 583 men got together to have sex with one woman in Australia. Thirsty men will do a lot for both sex and will even commit to 30s/40s women that give them sex.

30s/40s women do get more interest for sex than for sex + commitment, but there's still enough interest out there among men in sex + commitment arrangements with 30+ women.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Last women I was with was older, I took all her clothes and threw them away when she went back home to visit her parents.

that’s not only sociopathic behavior it’s criminal.

 

[Clockwerk50]

that’s not only sociopathic behavior it’s criminal.

He is a bad boy after all.

 

[GoodMan32]

Do you know how difficult it is for a 30 year old to get pregnant? Not from my experience [even though I've came inside plenty of 30+ year olds], but from experiences given by married folks who married late. They have to try a lot before they can get a child. Meanwhile, women below 30 get pregnant way easier. It's not even funny. That's why having a woman with your kids in her 20s is considered prime.

There were some IVF pregnancies in my social circle.

I'm aware getting pregnant is harder as a 30-something than as a 20-something.

Still, many a baby has popped out of 30+ year old cooches, even before IVF existed.

Harder isn't the same as hard.

As an analogy, if you don't have a strong math background, it's likely you'd fail both Calculus and Pre-Cal, even though it's more likely you'd fail Calculus (if you were to only fail one class).

If I were to bareback a 32 year old and a 24 year old, it's more likely I'd impregnate the 24 year old than the 32 year old (if only one were to get pregnant)...but it's still highly likely I'd impregnate both.

I wasn't afraid of pregnancy one bit when I repeatedly barebacked a 45 year old woman (She claimed her tubes were tied. Even if she was lying, oh well, the odds of her getting pregnant at that age are minusucle). On the other hand, I wouldn't be comfortable barebacking a 30-34 year old woman. The odds of pregnancy are too high (even if lower than a 20-something's odds of pregnancy). Hell, I even turned down protected sex with a 38 year old after a first date once because of the pregnancy risk.

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is not a mentality. It’s simply a limitation. I for example cannot attract a runway model because I’m not rich and powerful.

Bingo…. Too much being taken for dogma on this board.

These rules and theories, while generally applicable, are not dogma. More of a strategy. But life laughs at everyone’s plans.

 

[CoolWave1331]

Bingo…. Too much being taken for dogma on this board.

These rules and theories, while generally applicable, are not dogma. More of a strategy. But life laughs at everyone’s plans.

You encounter this stuff both online and offline

If you ask me me my opinion I think most guys have chance to succeed even with "good looking" girls. I don't believe it is hopeless for most men but I hae encountered some of these guys before in my personal life that say they can't get girls, girls don't like them, they've tried everything etc. They look okay for most part, maybe can change small things, nothing too major....then you ask deeper questions and you find out it's not that girls don't like them or don't pay attention, but *certain* types. I'm just going to say it these guys only want like a Priscilla Ricart or Rachael Pizzolato...yeah of course you will haev a difficult, miserable time if this type is your requirement. Small number of women look like this and they happen to run in packs - unless involved in that world it's unlikely you'll even come across one.

 

[BadBoy89]

There are enough men showing interest in 30s/40s women. Many 30s/40s women have hundreds of men in their swipe queues and also sending them messages on Instagram.

Either these men are single fathers, over 45 and want sex / companionship

There are more men that will commit to past their prime, damaged goods 30+ women than one would think.

If “damaged goods” means everything but never had a baby before and fertile, would agree.

Men are thirsty simps. Remember that 583 men got together to have sex with one woman in Australia. Thirsty men will do a lot for both sex and will even commit to 30s/40s women that give them sex.

Thats like going to a hooker.

It depends on age of women and man‘s situation. A 45 year old man with 2 - 20 year,old daughters will commit to almost any women under 45 who is normal and looks average A 42 year old man who wants kids is not going to legally commit to 38 year old woman.

30s/40s women do get more interest for sex than for sex + commitment, but there's still enough interest out there among men in sex + commitment arrangements with 30+ women.

Again it depends on if she’s fertile and has had kids before.

If she is and hasn’t, (and the man wants kids) then yes agree

Any other situation, it’s for sex and companionship.

 

[SW15]

It depends on age of women and man‘s situation. A 45 year old man with 2 - 20 year,old daughters will commit to almost any women under 45 who is normal and looks average A 42 year old man who wants kids is not going to legally commit to 38 year old woman.

If a 42 year old man wants kids, I agree that he's going to look younger.

Although women lose 90% of their eggs by age 30, the remaining 10% of those eggs are quite viable. There are so many women in their 30s who get pregnant.

Many 42 year old men can't get that much younger. A 42 year old man who wants his own biological kids isn't going to start a relationship from scratch with a 38 year old. There's insufficient time there. He might be willing to choose her if they agree on adoption. If a 42 year old man wants biological children, he's going to be looking to start a relationship with a woman at least 10 years younger.

40-44 year old men with children from previous relationships aren't very enthusiastic about having more children. A lot of 40-44 year old men who are childless wish to remain childless.

I have seen scenarios with late 30s/early 40s childless men legally committing to late 30s/early 40s childless women. These couples generally don't want kids.

single fathers

Single fathers in their 30s/40s committing to single mothers in their 30s/40s is a thing.

Another thing that's becoming common now is 50+ males legally committing to 50+ females. Both of the older adults have children 18+ (legal adults) from prior relationships. That's a messy situation for the adult children and for the older adults.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Another thing that's becoming common now is 50+ males legally committing to 50+ females. Both of the older adults have children 18+ (legal adults) from prior relationships. That's a messy situation for the adult children and for the older adults.

what are the advantages of this? I dont see any. Just be friends... especially if both already have a social network of kids, grandkids, etc.. Friendzone for old adults.

 

[BaronOfHair]

As one of my professors told my class in college (albeit in a different context): "If it sounds bull$hit, it probably is"

Pity you didn't run your fantasy of bagging a near or post-menopausal gal past this prof... They might've been more successful at enlightening you to the errors of your thinking than we have

 

[SW15]

Another thing that's becoming common now is 50+ males legally committing to 50+ females. Both of the older adults have children 18+ (legal adults) from prior relationships. That's a messy situation for the adult children and for the older adults.

what are the advantages of this? I dont see any. Just be friends... especially if both already have a social network of kids, grandkids, etc.. Friendzone for old adults.

I don't know. I think many older men continue with scarcity mentality later into life and want sex with women. They think that a relationship with a similarly aged woman is the way to do it.

In these types of relationships, the adult children of both older partners tolerate each other. That's a best case scenario. There are a lot of forced "family" get togethers with adult children of senior citizens who didn't grow up with each other. Some adult children might have their own children under 18 while other adult children are childless. The childless adult children are forced to put up with random children from someone who isn't a sibling or even a cousin at family gathering. That really stinks for the childless adult children in that situation.

This is all because some older adults want companionship and some sex.

This scenario isn't talked about much on this board. Plenty of Boomer and older Gen X divorcees are currently putting their adult children through this nonsense.

 

[MatureDJ]

And I'm broke enough that I can only afford the dented cans in the bargain bin.

 

[Divorced w 3]

He is a bad boy after all.

Is it not perfect? A sociopath is starting threads accusing others of being damaged goods?

 

[SW15]

And I'm broke enough that I can only afford the dented cans in the bargain bin.

Old and broke is a terrible combination in the mating marketplace. Old, broke, short, and with a 3 inch bald spot is even worse.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Old and broke is a terrible combination in the mating marketplace. Old, broke, short, and with a 3 inch bald spot is even worse.

guess what's worse? Old, broke, short, with a 3 inch bald spot and a woman. Yeah, I've seen tons of older women with hair issues.

Most were married though so they locked in their man... but imagine being an older women that hasnt locked any one down yet. geeze tough, tough.. tough.. I would rather be Old, broke, short, with a 3 inch bald spot and a man. There's always a chance I could make more money and be wealthy.

 

[Gamisch]

I'm being generous.


I would argue that struggling men stay away from older women as it'll just increase their troubles. You can make more errors with younger women. Older women will make a weak man weaker.



How do you think they got that good at it? lol Certainly not being a virgin.

Look, ofcourse a younger woman = oftentimes more attractive = better experience.

BUT ,that's still rather subjective...a 30 y.o Megan fox versus a 25 y.o fat unkempt woman..just an extreme example.

If you find it difficult to get women in the first place it's never a bad bet to ..bet on older women, even up to 50. Sometimes a man just needs to get the engine back running again...imo that's a (vital) part of every modern man's story.

Once you start shining and rolling and winning again yes, you'll be attracting WOMEN and age will be less of a factor thus you will be able to pick the best versions.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Look, ofcourse a younger woman = oftentimes more attractive = better experience.

BUT ,that's still rather subjective...a 30 y.o Megan fox versus a 25 y.o fat unkempt woman..just an extreme example.

If you find it difficult to get women in the first place it's never a bad bet to ..bet on older women, even up to 50. Sometimes a man just needs to get the engine back running again...imo that's a (vital) part of every modern man's story.

Once you start shining and rolling and winning again yes, you'll be attracting WOMEN and age will be less of a factor thus you will be able to pick the best versions.

Or you can go for a 25 yr hot woman instead. Men who intentionally go for:

• older women
• single mothers

...are only going for them for sex. Not a bond or relationship. Sex. Even the most bluepilled men who try to wife these women up do so out of a false sense of romance after getting enough sex [the typical trap of the women in the above categories]. It's dumpster diving for men. No betting on women above 30 ever. The articles are correct. Hell, even history is correct about this. Women were in the home by 25 with kids. The female gender is not made to be a single woman through the ages of 30 with nothing to show for it. Biologically and psychologically, it screws with the woman's mind, which is why we have an epidemic of mentally ill women with cats and dogs as their replacement for children.

 

[Vanderdonck]

"Sadly, most modern women nowadays end up marrying the 'Chad' type of guy while overlooking the nice guys or end up wasting their 20s, only to find that no man wants them after 30."

This quote goes against all kinds of RP talking points. For one, that the 'Chad' type doesn't marry. Second, that women aren't eventually getting the average joes (what we used to call betas) regardless.

"Damaged goods" is anyways subjective, as we've seen a million times around here.