Women monkey branching

[davidsonj73]

What percent of women do you think either do, or would monkey branch if what they perceive to be a better option comes around?

 

[Doctor Europeo]

19% at least. Gotta know how to screen good

 

[BaronOfHair]

Chances that she'll cheat/stray are always fairly strong... We, as a species, aren't hardwired to remain with one mate for decades on end

 

[DJ Novice]

If she truly loves you, very low in the short to medium term as she won’t be looking unless you regress by becoming a simp, lose frame or cease being the person she was initially attracted to. The longer the relationship lasts, the more the chances are of this happening. So in the long term the chances increase.

If she is not in love with you or you are her fallback option or just a placeholder until someone better comes along, very high.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Not sure why it matters or how knowing some made up number you are going to get makes any difference in any single situation.

In short, don't spend time worrying about things you can't control. Only spend your energy thinking about things you can control.

 

[plumber]

What percent of women do you think either do, or would monkey branch if what they perceive to be a better option comes around?

100% as always have to define what better means. For example, best looking guy in the world, most money, best personality, best at literally everything.

Guys are the same, if a girl gets ahold of you that is nicer, better looking, treats you like a king, give you everything... is loyal. would you branch over if the current one is not so nice....

Don't worry about it. Just accept it and move forward with the knowledge of how things work.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Sames as men who would go for a quick NSA bang with a baddie if he thought no one would find out.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Sames as men who would go for a quick NSA bang with a baddie if he thought no one would find out.

We've spent the past decade clutching our pearls over what was once a very obvious reality(SOs cheat... It ain't uncommon*):

This is more perplexing than our "shock" over Israel-Palenstine once again recreating The Hatfields and The McCoys(only with M-16s and LAW Rockets), for what must be the billionth time now


*We all watched Don, Betty, Roger, Pete, Joan and damned near everyone else on Mad Men spend the entirety of the late 2000s-early 10s cheating on one another, with a wide array of partners. In this not-especially-distant past, that such things happen fairly frequently was self-evident, to everyone over the age of 10. What prompted us to intellectually regress so dramatically, in such a brief period of time, continues to elude me

 

[Sega Genesis]

100% as always have to define what better means. For example, best looking guy in the world, most money, best personality, best at literally everything.

Better mutual chemistry? Better connection?

That said, I think it's best to end one relationship before searching for another however as often happens, the "better" person (for you) finds you while you're already in one.

Don't cheat! End the current relationship.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Chances that she'll cheat/stray are always fairly strong... We, as a species, aren't hardwired to remain with one mate for decades on end

Yea agreed I think you only have to look at the marriage failure rate to know its delusional to believe you'll make it 10,20,30 years with the same person.

Plenty will try but eventually at some stage everyone is going to have that nagging question of what else is out there

Nobody is craving sex with someone they've done it will 100X already it just gets too boring

This is like the ultimate taboo topic within human society though because people would rather believe in fairytales and pretend they aren't interested in others

Was speaking to a female friend on the weekend and we came to the conclusion the ideal scenario is too move a long term partner into like a platonic best friend dependent type role and then you have much shorter temporary sexual flings with others.

 

[DJ Novice]

I read a medical article once that said that most women’s internal secretions that are important for s*xual arousal decline significantly after 3-5 years with the same partner. We are fighting biology and hedonic adaptation.

If everyone was brutally honest, the possibility of having s*x with someone new compared to a long term partner will almost always be more novel/exciting/ interesting. It’s whether you choose act on those impulses or not that is the dilemma (which is a more of an individual moral issue).

S*xual boredom in long term relationships is the price you pay for stability. At some point you will exhaust novelty in terms of positions, locations, lingerie, toys, individual s*xual boundaries etc.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I read a medical article once that said that most women’s internal secretions that are important for s*xual arousal decline significantly after 3-5 years with the same partner. We are fighting biology and hedonic adaptation.

If everyone was brutally honest, the possibility of having s*x with someone new compared to a long term partner will almost always be more novel/exciting/ interesting. It’s whether you choose act on those impulses or not that is the dilemma (which is a more of an individual moral issue).

S*xual boredom in long term relationships is the price you pay for stability. At some point you will exhaust novelty in terms of positions, locations, lingerie, toys, individual s*xual boundaries etc.

Did you watch the Esther Perel video I uploaded in the 'boredom' thread "The Secret to Desire in Long Term Relationships"? In response to your post?

You never responded so was wondering if you watched or listened and what you thought of it?

She addresses the very thing you mentioned above in bold along with codependency, neediness and familiarity (among others) all contributeding to.

i do agree it's one of the major problems in LTRs but it doesn't have to be!

I dunno it's alot but Esther Perel makes excellent points as do her other videos and books - "Mating in Captivity: Unlocking Erotic Intelligence" - which discusses same and is a NY Times bestseller.

 

[Manure Spherian]

What percent of women do you think either do, or would monkey branch if what they perceive to be a better option comes around?

Monkey branching starts at very young for females. Many do it. Hardly any ordinary or attractive women are truly single.

 

[Dash Riprock]

The definition of a relationship today is far different from a relationship in 80s, 90s, or even early 2000's. Many of you here weren't dating back then, but with opportunities to meet people much more limited, people back then actually tried to make a relationship work and cheating, though definitely around, wasn't nearly as common.

Now, a relationship to most people is having a "favorite" person to date while keeping 4-5 in the bullpen when things go bad...and they eventually will. Plus, there are FAR more opportunities to cheat today than a decades ago. Generally now, as soon as a relationship hits a speed bump, people start swiping on Tinder, hooking up with an orbiter, or just dump the person they're with. They think this is just "normal," and sadly, today it is.

So if you're going to get involved in a LTR or married, realize:

1- 80s, 90s "commitment" type love is gone.
2- Transactional love is in.
3- Multi dating is in.
4- Most people keep an OLD profile active even when in a "relationship."
3- Women at any given time have 4-5 guys they can jump to in an instant even if they swear up and down they don't, you're the only one, etc., etc. Remember this when you're "committing" to her.
4- It will end. Period. At some point you will no longer be with that person. 50 year "forever" marriages like your grandparents had are as extinct as the T Rex. Hopefully for men, you don't lose your a*s in the process, as most do.

So long answer to the question, but the chances of getting cheated on and monkey branched, especially for men, are VERY HIGH. I'd say 80%+. This is based on experience and common sense.

Know the rules before you play the game, men.

Ciao.
~Dash

 

[The Duke]

The definition of a relationship today is far different from a relationship in 80s, 90s, or even early 2000's. Many of you here weren't dating back then, but with opportunities to meet people much more limited, people back then actually tried to make a relationship work and cheating, though definitely around, wasn't nearly as common.

Now, a relationship to most people is having a "favorite" person to date while keeping 4-5 in the bullpen when things go bad...and they eventually will. Plus, there are FAR more opportunities to cheat today than a decades ago. Generally now, as soon as a relationship hits a speed bump, people start swiping on Tinder, hooking up with an orbiter, or just dump the person they're with. They think this is just "normal," and sadly, today it is.

So if you're going to get involved in a LTR or married, realize:

1- 80s, 90s "commitment" type love is gone.
2- Transactional love is in.
3- Multi dating is in.
4- Most people keep an OLD profile active even when in a "relationship."
3- Women at any given time have 4-5 guys they can jump to in an instant even if they swear up and down they don't, you're the only one, etc., etc. Remember this when you're "committing" to her.
4- It will end. Period. At some point you will no longer be with that person. 50 year "forever" marriages like your grandparents had are as extinct as the T Rex. Hopefully for men, you don't lose your a*s in the process, as most do.

So long answer to the question, but the chances of getting cheated on and monkey branched, especially for men, are VERY HIGH. I'd say 80%+. This is based on experience and common sense.

Know the rules before you play the game, men.

Ciao.
~Dash

Spoken like an old veteran commander. Been there, done that.

 

[BaronOfHair]

80s, 90s "commitment" type love is gone

You're talking about The 1880s and 90s:
The days where real-life, for the typical person, bore any semblance to the sort of thing we read about in romantic fiction had already gone the way the pleisosaur and Clara Bow's time as a bona fide sex symbol, by time the last two decades of The 20th Century rolled around

Thus, the further one moves up the socioeconomic ladder, the more common it is to encounter folks approaching marriage in the same fashion the upper classes have since at least the beginning of recorded history... A joining of two houses and an investment, rather than a couple of individuals trying to turn a Hallmark Card movie into reality

 

[Bearnest]

What percent of women do you think either do, or would monkey branch if what they perceive to be a better option comes around?

You have to look at them.. they ussually have a flatter wide nose..

 

[Bearnest]

I know I can’t contain myself .. it’s like anxiety a fear of mine. I’ve been trying to figure out how to stop but come to terms with it.. think of the hulk and his dad. If the dad caused it .. the hulks always thinking of ways to fix it but there’s no resolution. It’s called polyamorous.

 

[DJ Novice]

@Sega Genesis I’m familiar with Esther Perel.

Her main premise is the things that create intimacy (closeness, predictability, security, comfort) are not the same things that create desire (distance, novelty, insecurity, discomfort).

In LTRs it is almost impossible to maintain the elements that fuel desire. Hedonic adaptation occurs. What was once new and exciting just isn’t that anymore.

Humans crave a mix of novelty and stability. At the beginning of a relationship novelty is high and stability is low. As time goes on stability becomes high and novelty becomes low. At some point it is impossible to get the same novelty from an existing partner than a new one. Boredom and comfort set in. Many people are happy to trade novelty for stability but others can’t (like me unfortunately).

The Madonna/wh*re complex also makes it hard. You need to objectify someone to a certain extent to have great physical intimacy. When you develop a strong emotional connection to someone this can make it difficult.

This is why one night stands can be so intense and enjoyable from a purely physical aspect as you don’t really care about what the other person thinks or says or does and you don’t care about them either. This makes it much easier to just let go. Not so in a relationship.

You are fighting against strong psychological forces in a LTR. I would argue that many long term couples are probably not really all that happy with their circumstances but have made their peace with it as the fear of leaving is greater than the fear of staying in the relationship.

 

[zekko]

So if you're going to get involved in a LTR or married, realize:
80s, 90s "commitment" type love is gone.

Definitely not gone, just rarer.