"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women im talking still on dating sites chatting to other men

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Thorninmyside

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Did OP forget which account he was trolling us from? This can't be an adult.

The only connection you need to be making right now is between a penis and vagina. Dial the fluffy preteen stuff down pronto.
 

soulforge

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Look what else she's been saying

[19/07, 22:40] : Something about when you say my name to me when we are talking on the phone it's just makes me feel all funny inside
[19/07, 22:49] But there is something in the way you say it just gets me
[19/07, 22:57] : You have a hard exterior but underneath it all you are soft but also a bit cheeky and naughty? X
[19/07, 23:01] : Can I say one thing I admire about you?
[19/07, 23:01] : me: Just one thing? Ha x
[19/07, 23:01] : I mean another thing I admire
[19/07, 23:02] : So I admire your confidence and how you make some feel at total ease x
[19/07, 23:03] : That you have control and have your life and yourself together x
[19/07, 23:05] You are so passionate about your family x
[19/07, 23:05] You want amazing things for your future
[19/07, 23:06] You are handsome and hot x
[19/07, 23:07] You have great values and clearly been brought up really well and I predict you take those values and treat a woman very well x
[19/07, 23:07] : You put others first before yourself x
[23:13]: I honestly feel I could chat to you about anything and everything x
[19/07, 23:13] : Just be my total self and that's rare as I usually have my guard up massively x
[19/07, 23:15] i want to see the side of you that you keep away from everyone else x
[19/07, 23:16] Ttust me you already are. But I'm sure you will see it all x
[19/07, 23:22] partner in crime, a team, a unit, a best friend
[19/07, 23:22]: Someone that brings out the best in you and supports your goals and dreams x
[19/07, 23:40] boy you are so so so wow x
[19/07, 23:59]e: Men like you are rare these days and it's so hard finding someone with values and principles these days x
[20/07, 01:20] How I would love to have your arms around me now x

Seriously where do i go from here???
Look what else she's been saying

[19/07, 22:40] : Something about when you say my name to me when we are talking on the phone it's just makes me feel all funny inside
[19/07, 22:49] But there is something in the way you say it just gets me
[19/07, 22:57] : You have a hard exterior but underneath it all you are soft but also a bit cheeky and naughty? X
[19/07, 23:01] : Can I say one thing I admire about you?
[19/07, 23:01] : me: Just one thing? Ha x
[19/07, 23:01] : I mean another thing I admire
[19/07, 23:02] : So I admire your confidence and how you make some feel at total ease x
[19/07, 23:03] : That you have control and have your life and yourself together x
[19/07, 23:05] You are so passionate about your family x
[19/07, 23:05] You want amazing things for your future
[19/07, 23:06] You are handsome and hot x
[19/07, 23:07] You have great values and clearly been brought up really well and I predict you take those values and treat a woman very well x
[19/07, 23:07] : You put others first before yourself x
[23:13]: I honestly feel I could chat to you about anything and everything x
[19/07, 23:13] : Just be my total self and that's rare as I usually have my guard up massively x
[19/07, 23:15] i want to see the side of you that you keep away from everyone else x
[19/07, 23:16] Ttust me you already are. But I'm sure you will see it all x
[19/07, 23:22] partner in crime, a team, a unit, a best friend
[19/07, 23:22]: Someone that brings out the best in you and supports your goals and dreams x
[19/07, 23:40] boy you are so so so wow x
[19/07, 23:59]e: Men like you are rare these days and it's so hard finding someone with values and principles these days x
[20/07, 01:20] How I would love to have your arms around me now x

Seriously where do i go from here???

This some wierd BS

Who in there right mind has conversations like this, without even meeting the other person, without dating, without fuking..

Sounds like love bombing to me... Op sounds like this chick is playing you..

Either that, or BOTH of you are a bunch of fukin wierdos
 

Thorninmyside

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Let OP learn the hard way for him experience will be the best teacher.
Yeah I think this site works best when you've encountered some real trouble rather than just some fellow puppy love orbiters via text.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Solomon

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Even after the lay, she's still not his. Women will shop around in the bedroom until they decided who in their playground deserves exclusivity (if she wants that).
So much this, sigh I hate to sound like the "old guy" but OP spin FERKING plates, that's the only way bro
even a 5 has more options than a guy who is a 9 and this is a fact
 

Masculinity

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Hi All,

I met a great women earlier through the week n match.com, hit it off straight away got her number etc and since then we have spoke none stop through txts and phone calls.

The only problem is im busy all weekend and told her that i cant arrange a date. so we will probably go on one soon after.

Anyway this woman sounds like she has really fallen for me saying im rare and she never opens up to men and has here shield up to most men but i make her so comfortable etc etc

Shes told she sees my as a hard exterior but but a little cheeky and a bit softer on the inside which is perfect.

The only problem is I can see shes active online still and its making me very jealous!

She frequently sends me screenshots of her matches and messages etc and its literally upto the hundred mark!

What can i do about it? Is there any articles i can read, obviously i cant tell her to not go on to this dating site as i know it would be beta. Its just driving me crazy!

Please advise/ give me a slap!

Thanks All
Low IL
 

ChristopherColumbus

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Get. off. line. Meet women in real life.

There are so many ladies out there looking to meet someone. I met one the other day, and she actually texted me first the next day. She was super flirty when I met her, so I got super cheeky with it and asked her straight over to my place. Probably burnt this one to the ground, but I don't mind as it's so easy to meet women. You just got to put yourself out there.

I'm finding there is something like a 'sweet spot' to be found when meeting women. You can not be too slow, nor can you be too fast... you have to find that goldilocks zone, which you get a feeling for after a while. Of course, this zone is different for all women.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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