Women flaking ratio going up

[Glassguy]

Well you're the top 5% then, and I'm not, so how do I get them to flake less?

I only have one answer for that question- Be their best option.

 

[Glassguy]

You can’t. You’re supposed to just eat that sh!t sandwich and other sh!t sandwiches that women get away with. And alot of guys give them a free pass and excuse their ****ty behavior, they’re the real simps in my opinion because they refuse to hold women accountable but demand men act a certain way towards bad behavior. It’s weird. You can’t stop a crappy person from being a crappy person.

The way a woman treats someone that she has 40% interest in compared to someone she has 90% interest in is night and day.

If you are not her best option, you have a chance to get flaked on if something better comes along (even something to do with her friends and not necessarily another date).

I flaked on 3 different chicks this past weekend because better options/offers came along. I didnt even look for those better options. They came to me. Thats how dating works.

 

[Glassguy]

Fact of life in dating- the top 10% hold the cards. It doesnt matter if its a man or woman.

I have options so I can choose to keep a date or flake for a better one. Women can do it if they are in the top 30% due to so many thirsty men who lower their standards to shower these women with attention.

Just my $.02

 

[Robert28]

The way a woman treats someone that she has 40% interest in compared to someone she has 90% interest in is night and day.

If you are not her best option, you have a chance to get flaked on if something better comes along (even something to do with her friends and not necessarily another date).

I flaked on 3 different chicks this past weekend because better options/offers came along. I didnt even look for those better options. They came to me. Thats how dating works.

I’m not arguing that’s how dating is, my argument is it’s still ****ty. Women crated the current dating market. The thing about flaking is you better make damn sure those perceived better options are solid because if they end up falling through, you’ll be left with no options. It’s like leaving your solid job for a better paying job, but oh wait, that better paying job ends up closing and laying you off in a year. Now you have no job.

 

[derby1]

Just to add to the post:

They all have some kind of boyfriend around as well. every single one of them.

probably made up with him the morning they went quiet on you.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

What's going on? I've recently made big progress in my careers (full time job as well as my creative side hustle), but women keep flaking more and more, it's like it's impossible to get a simple coffee date nowadays. I know I have to start working out again, but even when I was at my fittest (and a little less successful than now, which was 2 years ago), it was the same. Now all of them just wanna chat chat chat but when it's time to meet up IRL, it's crickets. I've asked out a few girls recently after I established a good dialogue and positive energy, but after I do, it's either crickets or excuses (or they say let me know when you're around next time).

Not doing it right kuz. Your career isn't what gets her wet. It's fallback for as the milk goes bad.

In 2022, it's pull or next. Blow me or blow me out. No free attention.

Fellas need to mercenaries with their time.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I flaked on 3 chicks this weekend (for better options).

So hopefully I made a small dent in balancing out the women/men flaking ratio bahahaha.

And guess what? 2 of the 3 women I flaked on have texted me non stop about when we can reschedule.

I wonder how many of you dudes do the same thing when a woman flakes on you?

I've flaked to go get more girls. As in beat it rotten already. I can hit her up at 2am as plan Z. Straight out of the modern woman playbook.

 

[bat soup]

What's going on? I've recently made big progress in my careers (full time job as well as my creative side hustle), but women keep flaking more and more, it's like it's impossible to get a simple coffee date nowadays. I know I have to start working out again, but even when I was at my fittest (and a little less successful than now, which was 2 years ago), it was the same. Now all of them just wanna chat chat chat but when it's time to meet up IRL, it's crickets. I've asked out a few girls recently after I established a good dialogue and positive energy, but after I do, it's either crickets or excuses (or they say let me know when you're around next time).

Have you tried not burping after you introduce yourself?

 

[Glassguy]

I’m not arguing that’s how dating is, my argument is it’s still ****ty. Women crated the current dating market. The thing about flaking is you better make damn sure those perceived better options are solid because if they end up falling through, you’ll be left with no options. It’s like leaving your solid job for a better paying job, but oh wait, that better paying job ends up closing and laying you off in a year. Now you have no job.

I totally disagree.
I flaked on 3 chicks last weekend. 2 of the 3 have blown my phone up wanting to know when I can get free to get together. Correction- the other chick messaged me asking when I am free to "try again". So 3 for 3.

And honestly its all about abundance/options. The chicks I went out with and the chicks I flaked on arent the only chicks that are showing high interest in me.

It takes balls to flake on a chick, especially an attractive chick with higher value. Does it always work out this way? No. But this past weekend, for me, showed that 3/3 women will chase if I cancel the date.

 

[Young OG]

What's going on? I've recently made big progress in my careers (full time job as well as my creative side hustle), but women keep flaking more and more, it's like it's impossible to get a simple coffee date nowadays. I know I have to start working out again, but even when I was at my fittest (and a little less successful than now, which was 2 years ago), it was the same. Now all of them just wanna chat chat chat but when it's time to meet up IRL, it's crickets. I've asked out a few girls recently after I established a good dialogue and positive energy, but after I do, it's either crickets or excuses (or they say let me know when you're around next time).

If you're getting flaked on then it's something you're doing wrong that's causing the flakes. I rarely ever get flaked on. I get flaked on once a year at the most. I've done plenty of OLD too. Step your game up.

 

[Kotaix]

I don't doubt that this is true. Some friends came over the other day with their 16 year old kid and I was appalled at his social skills. He was literally hiding behind his arm most of the time one his phone. Kids these days have the attention span of a goldfish. I find that even I have this problem thanks to smartphones.

Unfortunately this means that you need to find someone who isn't addicted to social media, dating apps. Women like you're describing are dysfunctional.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I totally disagree.
I flaked on 3 chicks last weekend. 2 of the 3 have blown my phone up wanting to know when I can get free to get together. Correction- the other chick messaged me asking when I am free to "try again". So 3 for 3.

And honestly its all about abundance/options. The chicks I went out with and the chicks I flaked on arent the only chicks that are showing high interest in me.

It takes balls to flake on a chick, especially an attractive chick with higher value. Does it always work out this way? No. But this past weekend, for me, showed that 3/3 women will chase if I cancel the date.

You got that abundance mindset. Modern day Robert munch.... stories for days. I'm biased on my perspective for pickup but the aftermath puts into perspective the value or lack thereof in women. The game is catch and release. If a fella acquires a unicorn in the process, let it ride. Don't hold your breath.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I'm going to use this thread to post a recent OLD convo that I had. I'm so used to **** like this happening, but it's still amazing.

Me: is that cute pupper yours?
Her: Sadly no it was my friends in X location
Me: Oh cool, I'm actually thinking of moving to X location, you'll have to tell me about it sometime
Her: We can do that over drinks
Me: Hahaha, that's bold of you. What's your number?
*Unmatches me*

In my experience, a lot of women completely shut down as soon as you try to set up firm plans. I've taken to asking 3 of them out on the same night, expecting 2 to flake.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

What's going on? I've recently made big progress in my careers (full time job as well as my creative side hustle), but women keep flaking more and more, it's like it's impossible to get a simple coffee date nowadays. I know I have to start working out again, but even when I was at my fittest (and a little less successful than now, which was 2 years ago), it was the same. Now all of them just wanna chat chat chat but when it's time to meet up IRL, it's crickets. I've asked out a few girls recently after I established a good dialogue and positive energy, but after I do, it's either crickets or excuses (or they say let me know when you're around next time).

Probably should get on that. I also have the exact opposite problem, girls I have no business going on dates with don't flake. I know PUA says for us to get a date asap, but I think that's horse shvt, you are probably too aggressive and needy.

 

[biggoal]

I'm going to use this thread to post a recent OLD convo that I had. I'm so used to **** like this happening, but it's still amazing.

Me: is that cute pupper yours?
Her: Sadly no it was my friends in X location
Me: Oh cool, I'm actually thinking of moving to X location, you'll have to tell me about it sometime
Her: We can do that over drinks
Me: Hahaha, that's bold of you. What's your number?
*Unmatches me*

In my experience, a lot of women completely shut down as soon as you try to set up firm plans. I've taken to asking 3 of them out on the same night, expecting 2 to flake.

Yep. It's good you asked for the number. If she doesn't want to give it out then next and move on. Otherwise might be talking for weeks.

That's a trend I've noticed. Before Covid hit it was fairly easy to get a number after a few messages if you asked. I mean like 70 percent of the time. Seems like now they shut you down a lot more if you ask too quickly.

I will also not agree to meet up unless I got a number. Because I'll use that on reverse phone search to get their full name and look them up on facebook. You have no idea how many use old photos or edited photos on dating apps then you see their pics on facebook and they're much fatter or older. saved me a lot of money and time.

 

[metalwater]

I’m not arguing that’s how dating is, my argument is it’s still ****ty. Women crated the current dating market. The thing about flaking is you better make damn sure those perceived better options are solid because if they end up falling through, you’ll be left with no options. It’s like leaving your solid job for a better paying job, but oh wait, that better paying job ends up closing and laying you off in a year. Now you have no job.

the job thing..

I get the point, it's fear. respect paint and death, don't be afraid. I don't tell that lightly, it's a difficult thing to know, and doing is also not simple.

No one in the upper 10%, 5%, 1%, .01% do so by staying in defense. defense supports offense. Laddering up professionally is an offensive move and requires some risk. The risk is mitigated by having multiple paths. When you look for another position, look at more than one and then keep those options open after you secure one. When you do that, the wise manager will continue to keep the job interesting and also ensure you are paid enough or even more than needed because it's difficult for a man to take a pay cut, it's a way to secure the business.

Be the best to be treated like the best.

The funny thing is it sounds exactly like dealing with women.

 

[TitusRamsies]

They are just not that into you.

 

[corrector]

I’m not arguing that’s how dating is, my argument is it’s still ****ty. Women crated the current dating market. The thing about flaking is you better make damn sure those perceived better options are solid because if they end up falling through, you’ll be left with no options. It’s like leaving your solid job for a better paying job, but oh wait, that better paying job ends up closing and laying you off in a year. Now you have no job.

That guy is never going to have no options. People who have the right looks never seem to have problems. Right looks means more women like you, means preselection and social proof and less bs like flaking. Always notice what posters have a different reality with women compared to others?

 

[corrector]

What's going on? I've recently made big progress in my careers (full time job as well as my creative side hustle), but women keep flaking more and more, it's like it's impossible to get a simple coffee date nowadays. I know I have to start working out again, but even when I was at my fittest (and a little less successful than now, which was 2 years ago), it was the same. Now all of them just wanna chat chat chat but when it's time to meet up IRL, it's crickets. I've asked out a few girls recently after I established a good dialogue and positive energy, but after I do, it's either crickets or excuses (or they say let me know when you're around next time).

To be brutally honest, use your money and get plastic surgery on your face. Your face needs to be improved otherwise career or gym is a waste of time. The face has most of that attraction factor and everything else just complements it.

 

[Mike32ct]

This is just a side note and NOT the cause of the OP’s issues…

While I fully support side hustles, a lot of women don’t see it that way. They prefer a guy that goes “all in” for ONE career or business. I would keep side hustles to yourself until you are exclusive with somebody. If you mention it early, she may view it as “He doesn’t make much $ in his primary gig, so he’s doing a secondary gig to compensate.”