Women find mature men repellent

[jhonny9546]

Hi guys! This is something to discuss with mature men!


There is a common consensus that women are attracted to wild, dominant men. Those they perceive as "slippery conquerors".
Their goal often seems to be to "tame" these men and make them fall in love, thereby securing their commitment.
Infact, relationships tend to thrive only when the man is caught, in love, but not overly invested.

As we member of the sosuave forum, and other men, dedicated to solving our fallacies and pursuing self-improvement, we work to "solve" our impulsiveness, aggressiveness, and other malicious traits so that we become more stable and wise. Interestingly, women may be biologically drawn to men with more "wild" characteristics because it allows them to express their love through the act of "taming" or "controlling" them. Consequently, women may prefer unstable men, as this provides them with a challenge and an opportunity to feel love through their efforts to stabilize him. For instance, a relationship where the man is impulsive, aggressive, childish and forgetful sometimes, while the woman is nurturing, caring and organized, can create a dynamic where she feels needed and can bring "love."

As we work on self-improvement and become more complete and stable individuals, we may inadvertently become less attractive to women. This is because we no longer possess those "broken" traits that women feel compelled to fix. This leads to an intriguing observation: long-lasting relationships often seem to function better when there is an unstable male paired with a woman who seeks to stabilize him. It appears that many women are drawn to men with imperfections, as it allows them to feel a sense of purpose in their relationship.

Ultimately, it seems that some women desire something "broken" that they can fix. For a long-lasting relationship, a man may feel pressured to maintain certain flaws so that his partner can have the "privilege" of adjusting him. This dynamic can create an illusion of control for the woman and contribute to the longevity of the relationship. I hope I am mistaken in this perspective. I would appreciate hearing different viewpoints from those who live this reality but see it differently. Is there truly a version of the "mature man" who is not seen as someone needing fixing? Can a woman genuinely love a complete man without wanting to change or "tame" him?

A broken man that a woman can fix is also the first and most common fantasy in erotic and romance novels.
Is something they crave for, and if they happen to "catch" one and make the father of their child, look like they can be in "love".

 

[Hamurabimbi]

No, this is something to discuss with your fellow romance novel readers.

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You should read the racier romance novels, where the heroines want to kneel for their master. Receive pain and humiliation and be rewarded by getting their throats stretched by humongous members.

I read one of a GF’s fave Romance novels. Lots of fingering & fvcking. Very little oral.

 

[jhonny9546]

Just like you fantasising about being in an orgy but in reality being afraid to get naked and bumping uglies in public.

We are focusing on the romance novel thing, which is something that it's only an element of the all.

The fact is, you can see this in real life, so no need to think as the RN examples.
The real fact is that a "mature man" make women so insecure they reject him.
Now, if this is related to 1% or 99% of woman I can't say it for sure.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Self improvement is for RP madmen.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Depends how the frame is set out with the woman from the start

If a woman feels she has "settled" for a man out of desperation or whatever she will repeatedly test the relationship as its in her nature too

If a man makes his woman the sole priority of his existence again she will continuously test the relationship because she wants a man that she can follow not lead

 

[plumber]

like taking care of a three leg puppy or bird with broken wing. this does happen.

something in the deep psych of women or some people... but even deeper is the evolution drivers that will eventually pop out IF the environment permits.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

The world isn't full of ball-busting Italianas OP.

Perhaps you should preface your headlines with "Italian Women" instead of just "Women."

 

[Machine10033]

In my opinion when you think like that you end up paralyzing yourself. I used to see it when i was younger when guys were obsessed with being “alpha”. They would be acting like ann abrasive ass one minute then an emotional wreck the next. All you can do is be the best version of yourself. I prioritize my health, finances, well being, security and family… I strive to improve daily and for myself always considered getting chicks a secondary benefit of living my best. I personally would not even entertain a female that is looking for a “ wild” “childish “ man… to each their own. You create
your own world and if it’s of value women will flock to you.

 

[corrector]

This is becayse most unstable guys tend to have the looks. When you dont have the looks you tend to be less entitled and more self sufficient because you know people dont go out of their way to help you.

 

[zekko]

long-lasting relationships often seem to function better when there is an unstable male paired with a woman who seeks to stabilize him.

I'm not sure I agree with this assessment. Certainly it happens, but it happens in reverse also. But if it doesn't happen in reverse as often, I think the main reason is that a stable male is not going to wife up an unstable woman - that would be stupid.

 

[Travel memoir21]

dude you’re just going after the wrong type of women…it’s not only entirely up to the man…to make a relationship work

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

You posted a word salad. I didn't read it.

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

dude you’re just going after the wrong type of women…it’s not only entirely up to the man…to make a relationship work

Yeah, ok

It's entirely up to the man to make the relationship work.

You can placate, or you can dictate.

What you wanna do, bud?

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

dude you’re just going after the wrong type of women…it’s not only entirely up to the man…to make a relationship work

I like dictating

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

If you aren't dictating, you're accepting.

There are only two options.

Sh1t or get shat on

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

I have a message to convey.

If you aren't ****ting, you're getting shat on.

Always remember that

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

You can't ever let up with women.

You can take my jokes for jokes...

But you can never let a woman have the upper hand.

Ask me how know?

 

[Gamisch]

I do understand your confusion because popular media keeps showing women actually talking about this over and over again. A normal woman talking normal shyte wint get no views..

So the generic dude/ beta /niceguy watching front the sidelines thinks " hey if I become a toxic badboy I will increase my chances with women".

You only forget that being a toxic badboy who goes through emotional rollercoasters with equally toxic women comes with a price. That price is your sanity and self-esteem and sometimes much more like money,freedom or your life.

Never forget how easily women can switch from A to Z if needed...jail and the cemetery are full of toxic badboys who got there due to women. Big part of being toxic is excalty that: toxic, non-functioning behaviour that makes a you a loose canon.

Are you ready to either die or do life for an hb7? ( a stretch, I know but none of those man expected that outcome neither)

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

I do understand your confusion because popular media keeps showing women actually talking about this over and over again. A normal woman talking normal shyte wint get no views..

So the generic dude/ beta /niceguy watching front the sidelines thinks " hey if I become a toxic badboy I will increase my chances with women".

You only forget that being a toxic badboy who goes through emotional rollercoasters with equally toxic women comes with a price. That price is your sanity and self-esteem and sometimes much more like money,freedom or your life.

Never forget how easily women can switch from A to Z if needed...jail and the cemetery are full of toxic badboys who got there due to women. Big part of being toxic is excalty that: toxic, non-functioning behaviour that makes a you a loose canon.

Are you ready to either die or do life for an hb7? ( a stretch, I know but none of those man expected that outcome neither)

I've been through the rollercoaster many times and can vouch for it

Women love the rollercoaster, by the way.

They love the ups and downs

It's their thrill of life!

If they don't have these, they get bored and think about divorce.

Ask me how I know, rookie

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

I don't like it, either.

But it's a fact of life.

Deal with it.

Or don't