"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"Women don't like nice guys" is a crock....says a woman.lol
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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A sneaky infomercial for Whygant.
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Didnt even read...title says it all. Women are incapable of understanding attraction because their emotional not logical.
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It's actually a good article...if your read between the lines.
They want a nice guy = polite, listens, cares, attentive to an extent.
But what they also want are some Alpha Traits = not a pushover, not needy, takes the lead, having your own passions + goals.
They want a nice guy = polite, listens, cares, attentive to an extent.
But what they also want are some Alpha Traits = not a pushover, not needy, takes the lead, having your own passions + goals.
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And this is what people need to understand, Nice but a backbone.expos said:
my sis told me this when i said to her once that i need to be an ******* to get females and she said no women want a nice guy the immature girls dont realize this till they get older and realize there own worth, and want to be treated like a lady. This is why nice guys finish last because during your late 20's girls are just starting to figure this out and the nice guys dont get distracted in there early 20's by females they work to make a good life, so the ladies will come to them.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
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You guys are completely missing the point
Yes, a lot of women these days will accept a nice guy. Why? Because she can control him. However, she will get tired of his lack of manliness and move on in most cases.
Alpha with nice guy (beta) traits? Come on guys! That doesn't even make logical sense.
The alpha will always trump the beta because the alpha is the real man. Let's not confuse alpha with a**hole. An alpha has the utmost respect for himself and never stoops down to a woman's level. However, an alpha will do things like hold the door open. Doing things like this actually displays power over the opposite sex. You would hopefully never see a woman holding a door open for a man because the woman is the physically weaker being. I think you're confusing nice guy traits with what are actually alpha traits.
At the end of the day there are no short cuts to being a man. Saying women actually like nice guys is a cop out. Men who settle with this can settle for a life of lower than even mediocrity.
Yes, a lot of women these days will accept a nice guy. Why? Because she can control him. However, she will get tired of his lack of manliness and move on in most cases.
Alpha with nice guy (beta) traits? Come on guys! That doesn't even make logical sense.
The alpha will always trump the beta because the alpha is the real man. Let's not confuse alpha with a**hole. An alpha has the utmost respect for himself and never stoops down to a woman's level. However, an alpha will do things like hold the door open. Doing things like this actually displays power over the opposite sex. You would hopefully never see a woman holding a door open for a man because the woman is the physically weaker being. I think you're confusing nice guy traits with what are actually alpha traits.
At the end of the day there are no short cuts to being a man. Saying women actually like nice guys is a cop out. Men who settle with this can settle for a life of lower than even mediocrity.
Many of you have unplugged from one matrix and into another.
Not every man fits into this little alpha-beta dichotomy we like to talk about here. Same with women and the Madonna-wh0re dichotomy.
Id say for the most part many people desire a partner with a little bit of both sides of the coin. That being said, there arent only two types of people. There are shades of grey. Am I a nice dude? Why yes I am. But I can also be an arrogant, selfish, and stubborn jerkbag. Moods come and go, and people get different sides of me based on how they interact with me.
Do I want a nice girl? Sure. But I also want a feisty b!tchy girl as well who can go toe to toe with me. I dont care for suzie homemaker. I like a girl whos similar to me...one that has attitude and has lived a little bit.
People are unique and varied. Remember that we dont all fit neatly under little labels.
Not every man fits into this little alpha-beta dichotomy we like to talk about here. Same with women and the Madonna-wh0re dichotomy.
Id say for the most part many people desire a partner with a little bit of both sides of the coin. That being said, there arent only two types of people. There are shades of grey. Am I a nice dude? Why yes I am. But I can also be an arrogant, selfish, and stubborn jerkbag. Moods come and go, and people get different sides of me based on how they interact with me.
Do I want a nice girl? Sure. But I also want a feisty b!tchy girl as well who can go toe to toe with me. I dont care for suzie homemaker. I like a girl whos similar to me...one that has attitude and has lived a little bit.
People are unique and varied. Remember that we dont all fit neatly under little labels.
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It's true that most women dream about Prince Charming. Few women fantasize about guys giving them a black eye or cheating on them with their best friend or turning them out to do tricks. What the article fails to mention is that, in the real world, women respond poorly to guys who are nothing but noble and kind to them. They start taking advantage of such men and eventually lose attraction and respect for them.
Women are attracted to bad boys for a very simple reason. They don't take sh*t from women and are quick to put them in their place. That's something that, from my observation, women respond very positively to.
Women are attracted to bad boys for a very simple reason. They don't take sh*t from women and are quick to put them in their place. That's something that, from my observation, women respond very positively to.
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You really shouldn't be speaking about "the matrix". You are kaylan from Loveshack, the guy who posts stuff like this:Jaylan said:
You have no business giving advice on this board. Go back to LS
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ThisBokanovsky said:
Are we forgetting something boyz...what Women WANT and what they RESPOND to are two completely diff. Things!!! This article speaks of the wants and lacks in reacted too
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Im a guy who dates without issue and Im not allowed to give advice? Lmao.Bokanovsky said:You really shouldn't be speaking about "the matrix". You are kaylan from Loveshack, the guy who posts stuff like this:
You have no business giving advice on this board. Go back to LS
Let me address the threads you linked.
1. Is there a problem with a guy enjoying passionate kisses? If so, do explain.
2. Didnt know having crushes was bad.
3. God forbid I have a moment of weakness about a girl I really liked 6 months ago. No one has a perfect dating life dude. Get real.
4. Nice job referencing a 2 year old thread. Nice job referencing a thread about me pulling away from a chick I liked. A hot chick I banged by the way. Did I mention that this thread was 2 years old and back during the time I was plugged into the Sosuave matrix of overanalyzing and worrying too much about what women think?
5. Did not know it was not ok to appreciate a modern independent woman that puts out. I happen to like that in a woman. I dont need clingy prudes or women who cant pull their own weight monetarily. A girl who can take care of herself, is a girl I have to worry less about mooching off of me or trying to force me to settle down.
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*they'reTheException said:
Im not ashamed to be a grammar nazi.
Grammar matters people!
Being well-written and well spoken will never lose you any favours.
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Nice guys finish last.
5 minutes of alpha beats 55 years of beta!
Time to get a drink. Everybody clear the courtroom.
5 minutes of alpha beats 55 years of beta!
Time to get a drink. Everybody clear the courtroom.
Asking a woman what she's attracted to is like asking concert-goers why they like a particular song. They have vague general reasons why, but would never be able to answer the art or science behind making music. Their advice would be lousy if you were trying to learn and sell music, you'd be better off asking a producer or successful musician.
This nice guy vs. Alpha male is a pile of bull. Women are attracted to men who respect themselves and are not push-overs. It has nothing to do with nice or alpha. Nice guys just tend to be push-overs and alpha guys or jerks don't.
This nice guy vs. Alpha male is a pile of bull. Women are attracted to men who respect themselves and are not push-overs. It has nothing to do with nice or alpha. Nice guys just tend to be push-overs and alpha guys or jerks don't.
Packers2010
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this is quite true..expos said:
i think they want a little of both. if you mix the 2 together. then think you have the perfect guy ( in the women eyes)
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.