Women are valuable, how can sosuave say otherwise.

[Trump]

Can someone explain to me how this site advocates, to: devalue women, realize they are nothing, they are a side dish, they are unimportant, they are meaningless, they have no real worth, when:

The leaders of the free world, the rich people, the professionals, the politicians, the doctors, the specialists, the lawyers, the pilots, the inventors, the directors, the actors, the investors, ALL love their wives immensely and ALL value women.

How can the top players on this site keep telling sosuave members, who most work from 9-5 pm getting a paycheque, NOT to value them? Are you kidding me? The politician or director worth $25,000,000 values them, but for the regular average average male, HE shouldn’t value them. Give me a break.

Have the President of China agree these girls are worthless, and then come tell sosuave members the same thing. Not the other way around.

 

[Atom Smasher]

First of all, doctors' wives are usually horror shows. Take it from me, I have a lot of physician clients. Ditto with actors.

The professionals who you mention and who seem to you to be of a higher value, if they have a quality wife, it's because they have managed to secure on of the 2% of women today who have not been psychologically decimated by the media.

97-98% of women in the real world suffer from having been brainwashed by the media and are therefore valuable for sex and nothing else. Women have devalued themselves by feasting upon the media for decades, which tells them how "valuable" and "superior" they are. They have en masse lost their sanity, which I define as their ability to discern reality and to think rationally.

I advocate that every man make himself an upper 2% man, which will make him eligible for an upper 2% woman.

Value that which has intrinsic value. Discard the valueless and that which drains your very soul out from you. Decent women who will support your life are rare in this day and age. That is the reality of the times.

 

[redskinsfan92]

No, just taking them off the pedestal. Try again.

 

[Billtx49]

No, just taking them off the pedestal. Try again.

Exactly right, when she’s removed from said pedestal she has to actually display personal value to be valued by a man…

 

[marmel75]

No, just taking them off the pedestal. Try again.

OP comes up with these delusional posts based on like 0.5% of users posts then tries to lump in the other 99.5% of posts...

 

[Robert28]

You have to value yourself before you can value women.

 

[Epic Days]

The leaders of the free world, the rich people, the professionals, the politicians, the doctors, the specialists, the lawyers, the pilots, the inventors, the directors, the actors, the investors, ALL love their wives immensely and ALL value women.

And yet the world gets worse. Your taxes get higher and your hours longer for the same amount of return. That is their statistic. If they are leading, it belongs to them. Divorce rates are measurably higher among those mentioned. Especially politicians and Hollywood.
Are those people your hero?
Do you realize how many world class surgeons are divorced? These guys make serious bank too. It didn't save them. Hell, I loved my wife too. Right up to the point of realization. I valued her above all.
Where did this idea come from? When did I adopt this idea? Where is the evidence that proves that idea I had? I was wrong. I was so wrong that I was a puddle of disillusioned confusion. Fortunately my most important life experiences pulled me up to the standing position.

Politicians are in a marriage of illusion in many cases. They must represent to the public their "submission" to the imperative or they wont get voted in. When was the last single president elected in?

 

[AJ84]

I think women definitely should prove they have value to the man that they want.

But decent women don’t want men who automatically assume they are worthless.

There has to be a balance between taking her off the pedestal and despising her.

Who wants someone to assume you’re garbage first, then expect you to make an effort to prove otherwise? How many men here would do this for women who assumed that?

Luckily we all have a choice of what kind of people to accept into our lives and what threads to ignore.

 

[highSpeed]

And yet the world gets worse. Your taxes get higher and your hours longer for the same amount of return. That is their statistic. If they are leading, it belongs to them. Divorce rates are measurably higher among those mentioned. Especially politicians and Hollywood.
Are those people your hero?
Do you realize how many world class surgeons are divorced? These guys make serious bank too. It didn't save them. Hell, I loved my wife too. Right up to the point of realization. I valued her above all.
Where did this idea come from? When did I adopt this idea? Where is the evidence that proves that idea I had? I was wrong. I was so wrong that I was a puddle of disillusioned confusion. Fortunately my most important life experiences pulled me up to the standing position.

Politicians are in a marriage of illusion in many cases. They must represent to the public their "submission" to the imperative or they wont get voted in. When was the last single president elected in?

You have summed up the downfall of the west. If they don't virtue signal for the imperative, the sisterhood, then it doesn't get voted in. That's why, someday soon, most of the west will be dancing on the bread line, brought to you by the letter V for Venezuela.

 

[lamath]

I think lots of women have great value.
Problem now a day, lots of them think that their look and ***** is all they need to succeed.

 

[Epic Days]

I think women definitely should prove they have value to the man that they want.

But decent women don’t want men who automatically assume they are worthless.

There has to be a balance between taking her off the pedestal and despising her.

Who wants someone to assume you’re garbage first, then expect you to make an effort to prove otherwise? How many men here would do this for women who assumed that?

Luckily we all have a choice of what kind of people to accept into our lives and what threads to ignore.

Not that any of this matters to you but men have a serious issue on their hands. The majority are not dissing women. Pointing out their self evident propensities (women) in an effort to get a man to SEE that life is not anything he was raised to believe, doesn't equal hate women.

That is a weapon used against him to bring him back to the plantation. He is bombarded with this every day of his life. In commercials. The news. Mainstream media. Movies. Social Media. Music. every day life. He is being assaulted at every turn. Mostly below his awareness. "You hate women. Who hurt you? You're a misogynist! etc. etc. etc."
Give it a rest. There are plenty of women haters nailing beautiful women every day. WHY aren't they here complaining about women hating?

"He thinks his everyday life is normal." But the second he attempts to break free...He is a misogynist.

I do not expect you to understand this. If you understood it at a visceral level you would not have wrote what you did. You would actually speak out and get in those creepy, pvssy hat wearing rhinos, faces. You would put your life on the line to make a wrong, right. You would put your life on the line for your offspring possibly but you do not have the capacity to extrapolate in this paradigm. It doesn't benefit you.

Now if you could get all these guys to go into agreement with the "hate" thing, they would introvert and default back to their social conditioning in shame and submit subservience to your accusation of hate.

I do not expect any of this from you. I understand the primal drives and goals of a woman. I LOVE an awesome connection with a woman. It is an extremely valuable state. Just because I point out their nature and what men are up against...doesn't equal hate. What a low level intelligence issue that is...OR very well engineered. Men inching out of the feminine trap is not evil and will actually elevate our society.

Epic days out.

 

[Kotaix]

You're assuming quite a bit... I don't think you can say that they all love their wives. Their wives certainly have all maximized their hypergamy by getting in with them, that might have something to do with them being "happy". Elon Musk is far from happy and he's been divorced, so was johnny carson back in the day.

Assigning someone some form of intrinsic value because of the condition of their birth (over which they have zero control) is the definition of being blue-pilled. It's healthy to not value women, it keeps your little head from thinking for the big head. That's already difficult (hard...) when you're red pilled just because of biology.

Value is in the eye of the beholder, and it's not your place or anyone else's to dictate values to a free man.

 

[Epic Days]

You're assuming quite a bit... I don't think you can say that they all love their wives. Their wives certainly have all maximized their hypergamy by getting in with them, that might have something to do with them being "happy". Elon Musk is far from happy and he's been divorced, so was johnny carson back in the day.

Assigning someone some form of intrinsic value because of the condition of their birth (over which they have zero control) is the definition of being blue-pilled. It's healthy to not value women, it keeps your little head from thinking for the big head. That's already difficult (hard...) when you're red pilled just because of biology.

Value is in the eye of the beholder, and it's not your place or anyone else's to dictate values to a free man.

I can run with that.

 

[AJ84]

Not that any of this matters to you but men have a serious issue on their hands. The majority are not dissing women. Pointing out their self evident propensities (women) in an effort to get a man to SEE that life is not anything he was raised to believe, doesn't equal hate women.

That is a weapon used against him to bring him back to the plantation. He is bombarded with this every day of his life. In commercials. The news. Mainstream media. Movies. Social Media. Music. every day life. He is being assaulted at every turn. Mostly below his awareness. "You hate women. Who hurt you? You're a misogynist! etc. etc. etc."
Give it a rest. There are plenty of women haters nailing beautiful women every day. WHY aren't they here complaining about women hating?

"He thinks his everyday life is normal." But the second he attempts to break free...He is a misogynist.

I do not expect you to understand this. If you understood it at a visceral level you would not have wrote what you did. You would actually speak out and get in those creepy, pvssy hat wearing rhinos, faces. You would put your life on the line to make a wrong, right. You would put your life on the line for your offspring possibly but you do not have the capacity to extrapolate in this paradigm. It doesn't benefit you.

Now if you could get all these guys to go into agreement with the "hate" thing, they would introvert and default back to their social conditioning in shame and submit subservience to your accusation of hate.

I do not expect any of this from you. I understand the primal drives and goals of a woman. I LOVE an awesome connection with a woman. It is an extremely valuable state. Just because I point out their nature and what men are up against...doesn't equal hate. What a low level intelligence issue that is...OR very well engineered. Men inching out of the feminine trap is not evil and will actually elevate our society.

Epic days out.

I know men are being targeted. I think it’s a witch hunt by some women with an ax to grind and it’s making things worse not only for men but for normal women who actually like men. Men afraid to hire females because they don’t want to be accused of sexual harassment? Don’t blame them. I’d be afraid too. So women are now secretly not hired out of fear. Thanks a f**king lot #metoo,

I have brothers one who is a bit of a player and I worry that he will be accused of something.

Just because I have a vagina doesn’t mean I think women are the bestest and men suck, Ranger.

I don’t like how things are going and there are a lot of other women who don’t because it does affect the average women in a negative way (and men obviously even more).

I feel that a lot of what you post is a response to what’s going on and I can understand why there is some anger and frustration (not unlike how feminists probably were back when they felt oppressed, because men are being oppressed of their masculinity). And that sucks, because there is nothing hotter than a manly man but I’m digressing.

With first wave feminism, some got totally carried away and became toxic with what is now third wave feminism. They have low opinions of men and shame women who didn’t fit into their paradigm.

What you post sounds like third wave feminism with the genders reversed.

How do men view third wave feminists? How will women view the male equivalent of that?

Is this view going to help men attract women to them or, is the idea for men not to bother with women at all? Sometimes it seems like the latter, which contradicts what the site is for and which may explain why you get some flack from the guys who are out there successfully dating and in relationships.

 

[sosousage]

How can the top players on this site keep telling sosuave members, who most work from 9-5 pm getting a paycheque, NOT to value them? Are you kidding me? The politician or director worth $25,000,000 values them, but for the regular average average male, HE shouldn’t value them. Give me a break.

so if a businessman/politican is worth $25,000,000 then hes automatically expert in any and every field from fishing through dating to biotechnology? low iq

 

[Epic Days]

I know men are being targeted. I think it’s a witch hunt by some women with an ax to grind and it’s making things worse not only for men but for normal women who actually like men. Men afraid to hire females because they don’t want to be accused of sexual harassment? Don’t blame them. I’d be afraid too. So women are now secretly not hired out of fear. Thanks a f**king lot #metoo,

I have brothers one who is a bit of a player and I worry that he will be accused of something.

Just because I have a vagina doesn’t mean I think women are the bestest and men suck, Ranger.

I don’t like how things are going and there are a lot of other women who don’t because it does affect the average women in a negative way (and men obviously even more).

I feel that a lot of what you post is a response to what’s going on and I can understand why there is some anger and frustration (not unlike how feminists probably were back when they felt oppressed, because men are being oppressed of their masculinity). And that sucks, because there is nothing hotter than a manly man but I’m digressing.

With first wave feminism, some got totally carried away and became toxic with what is now third wave feminism. They have low opinions of men and shame women who didn’t fit into their paradigm.

What you post sounds like third wave feminism with the genders reversed.

How do men view third wave feminists? How will women view the male equivalent of that?

Is this view going to help men attract women to them or, is the idea for men not to bother with women at all? Sometimes it seems like the latter, which contradicts what the site is for and which may explain why you get some flack from the guys who are out there successfully dating and in relationships.

I know why you are thinking that way, about how it feels. It's not true. We don't think like women. The complete context is a logical thought out process based on what our programming is. Even the cuckables here are reasoning and thinking in a standard linear modus operandi. Our memory banks are not set up like a woman's as they are connect to a completely different endocrine system.

We are responsible for bare tooth survival. We cant think any other way. Nor should we. I am not reverse feminine imperative and neither is the message. I wouldn't have said a thing if you had said, not all women are like that, because it would be true. That percentage is of course debatable.

But you pulled the "hate" card to use as leverage. Men understanding the truth about female nature, the most successful breeding strategy this planet knows, is not hate. We have this crazy thing called "moral codes" in the literal context. Our programmed social conditioning runs up against the things that are observable and self evident and there's a conflict. For men this disrupts their ability to operate in the world. He is always turned inward to compare what he is doing to that social conditioning. Women are naturally doing this every second. We do not. It is conditioning for us and makes men insecure of their position in life. We become fickle like a woman and wonder around in uncertainties.

Some men, are predisposed to the social conditioning to the point that they just go play stupid video games and call it good. Then if they get up and say something that he is trying to work out... He hates women. Or is a misogynist and now, hes just like the women of the third wave feminism. How much more can be piled onto them? Whats next? "You will be a workhorse and that's all you will ever be?"

I do not detect ill intent in you at all. It never crossed my mind. This is education and not a petty debate forum. If you had said anything else that was an observable truth without using "trump cards" I wouldn't have said a thing and moved on. Cheers.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Everyone stop arguing over this stupid straw man post.

 

[Epic Days]

There were some valuable lessons in it. Good post. Men are less agreeable than women so there are going to be opposed comments. Get use to it. In a woman's forum there will be women lathering agreements all over each other just waiting and daring someone to oppose.

 

[ElCheapo]

Can someone explain to me how this site advocates, to: devalue women, realize they are nothing, they are a side dish, they are unimportant, they are meaningless, they have no real worth, when:

The leaders of the free world, the rich people, the professionals, the politicians, the doctors, the specialists, the lawyers, the pilots, the inventors, the directors, the actors, the investors, ALL love their wives immensely and ALL value women.

How can the top players on this site keep telling sosuave members, who most work from 9-5 pm getting a paycheque, NOT to value them? Are you kidding me? The politician or director worth $25,000,000 values them, but for the regular average average male, HE shouldn’t value them. Give me a break.

Have the President of China agree these girls are worthless, and then come tell sosuave members the same thing. Not the other way around.

Someone needs to inform the "women are worthless" crew that if women were worthless humanity wouldn't exist.

Unless these same suspect individuals plan on men impregnating each other in the now or near future.

Perhaps their "women are worthless" viewpoints stem from some deep seeded hatred of the women who gave birth to them.

After all if these same men proclaim to be full of value themselves then the women who gave birth to them surely must have some worth.

 

[sangheilios]

There are definitely good women out there, but they are almost always wifed up before 30, hell even 25. Beyond a certain point all that's available is truly just crumbs.