"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women are usually boring how do we deal with that?

taiyuu_otoko

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Most people are dumb, boring, and ugly.

You're job is to find the smart, interesting, and attractive people to create relationships and friendships with.

Of course, you'll have a hard time doing that if you are dumb, boring, and ugly yourself.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I don't come here to brag I just want advice. The dull bimbo stereotype of attractive women exists for a reason. I have dated interesting and attractive women, but they aren't common.
yeah man, keep focusing on the bimbos and the stereotypes. that's what women are, right?

so what happened? did you consistently date with those interesting, attractive women? if i were you, i would've bed at least one of them first.

I made my username because I was freaking out about something a few months ago and I don't feel like making a new username.
alright then.

The average woman has very little in her profile other than pictures, mentioning she likes wine, travel, shopping, bad tv, etc.
if you're going for average women, of course.

i'm confused. you date interesting, attractive, and average women. by now, you at least have some idea of what you want in a woman.

dealing with boring women is not about dealing with the women. you don't cast a spell to remove the boredom out of a woman. it's about you taking the lead, taking control, being in charge of the moments and situations, turning the boring and mundane into exciting, ecstatic, fun experiences for both you and your woman.
 

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A woman is an addition to your life. Her presence is useful for sex and for light chat when you're somewhere you want to be. Let's say you want to visit a place/country. You take her and visit such places. If you find a nice one, she will show happiness and gratitude that will irradiate. Like seeing kids play and enjoy simple things.
 

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A woman is an addition to your life. Her presence is useful for sex and for light chat when you're somewhere you want to be. Let's say you want to visit a place/country. You take her and visit such places. If you find a nice one, she will show happiness and gratitude that will irradiate. Like seeing kids play and enjoy simple things.
So essentially you are telling us you will never have a meaningful relationship in your life based on these thoughts.
 

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So essentially you are telling us you will never have a meaningful relationship in your life based on these thoughts.
I think men and women live in a different world. You might find some common ground like raising kids, hobbies, etc. But deep conversations like life meaning, business, objectives, etc... I talk about those with my friends that are smarter/older/experienced. I don't expect a girl in her 20 or 30' to have that much experience/knowledge to share. It doesn't make the relationship less meaningful.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Divorced w 3

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I think men and women live in a different world. You might find some common ground like raising kids, hobbies, etc. But deep conversations like life meaning, business, objectives, etc... I talk about those with my friends that are smarter/older/experienced. I don't expect a girl in her 20 or 30' to have that much experience/knowledge to share. It doesn't make the relationship less meaningful.
This is the type of entitled red pill trash I am specifically referring to. The idea that a woman cannot offer an informed interesting perspective is a joke. I never traveled so well and spent so much time on the smaller entertaining things than in my most recent relationship. I was focused on business and parenting. Am I also more empathetic and have a better relationship with my self, family and friends than I did prior? Does that mitigate the value of a perspective or was I just not well rounded? Was I happy or was my world small and distopian?
 

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How do very feminine women (oftentimes hot women) mentally connect with very masculine men? What do they have in common?
Certainly it's important to have things in common, most especially similar morals and values. But that aside, I don't think so much about what we have in common when connecting with women. To me, it's more about being complementary - the feminine to my masculine, the yin to the yang, as they say. If you have that, it's all you need IMO.
 
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