"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women are hypocrites

joey2times

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Just an observation, but how many times have you heard that women don't place as much emphasis on looks as men? That women are much more inclined to be attracted to your personality than vice versa?

If that's so, how come you see these BBW(Big Beautiful Women) sites all over the internet, but none for fat guys? It seems that some men are more than happy to entertain the thought of rolling around in the hay with these HOGS, but women don't seem to reciprocate? If women aren't into looks as much as men, why don't they flock in droves to fat guys with great personalities?

We all know that looks matter, and there's nothing wrong with that. My issue is that women are just as shallow as us guys, yet we're the ones being told all we look for is T and A.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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iqqi

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You are confusing all that with insecurity.

Women are more insecure with weight issues than men. Those sites are designed to make women feel better about being fat.
 

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Lol no iqqi. Women are hypocritics. One of the cardinal rules of DJs is we don't pay credence to what they say, only what they do. The truth is women are if anything more shallow than men.
 

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Yes, women are hypocrites. So what? Fact is, these fat @sses are still getting laid. But I don't even care about that. What's strange to me is when these.....'bbws' say they want a good-looking man with a NICE BODY!

They're fooling themselves, just like 75% or so people on this site. Seems to me people want the goods without doing what it takes to get there.

Actually, my reply has nothing to do with your post. But then again, you didn't really ask a question! :p
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Uh just how old are you if you think 28 is a youngin? Every where I go out I'm the older guy despiute looking younger than my age. I might actually be a couple years older than 28 but I don't see that it matters since I'm obviously over 25 :whistle:
 

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ketostix said:
Lol no iqqi. Women are hypocritics. One of the cardinal rules of DJs is we don't pay credence to what they say, only what they do. The truth is women are if anything more shallow than men.

I agree. An attractive physical appearance can get your foot in the door with most attractive women. Think about it, they sit and watch that VH1 and MTV crap all day fantasizing about living the Hollywood life, the last thing they want is their friends finding out they are dating some "charming" average schlub.
 

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The OP has a point; you don't see dating sites catering to BBM (big beautiful men). How many in-shape women have you encountered who have a fat guy fetish? For that matter, how many fat women have a fat guy fetish? How many (heterosexual) websites are dedicated to the appreciation of grossly overweight men?

You see, it's a "fetish" if a man appreciates it, but it's normal for women.
 

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joey2times said:
If that's so, how come you see these BBW(Big Beautiful Women) sites all over the internet, but none for fat guys? It seems that some men are more than happy to entertain the thought of rolling around in the hay with these HOGS,
AFCness is a rampant in our society. I have never met a normal dude who was into BBW. No guy in his right mind will choose a fit girl over fatty one. Guys who go for BBW do so because it is an easier lay. A BBW will treat an AFC pretty good since she herself has few oppertuinities and since AFC's don't know any better, they will choose BBWs.

Its a vicious cycle. Today's modern women are fatter then ever and because there are so many AFC's out there then ever, they are able to sell BBW to the masses as "Big beautiful Woman" rather then what it should really be called "BIG BEACHED WHALE".

The funny thing about it is now BBW's are starting to get the attitude of HB's and walk around with self-entitlment attitude because they are finding more and more desperate men who would put them on the pedestal due to this "fetish". I snicker every time i hear a fat cow saying "the man i was seeing rejected me because he couldn't handle a BBW such as myself, I need to find a real man who can handle a real woman" lol.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I have never met a normal dude who was into BBW
Believe me, they're out there. My stepbrother makes good money and has a pretty cool persona. He's no Rex Man :rockon: , but he has a decent pick. He likes him big though :confused: . I guess it's how some guys like tall girls (I don't), it boils down to personal tastes. I try not to sh!t on peoples taste, hell, it doesn't effect me either way.

The funny thing about it is now BBW's are starting to get the attitude of HB's and walk around with self-entitlment attitude because they are finding more and more desperate men who would put them on the pedestal due to this "fetish". I snicker every time i hear a fat cow saying "the man i was seeing rejected me because he couldn't handle a BBW such as myself, I need to find a real man who can handle a real woman" lol.
Oh......so.......true.
 

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I think it's because some dudes really are attracted to fat chicks. Women aren't really "attracted" to fat dudes. Unless that fat dude has power, money, or a wicked sense of humor. Men, however, genuinely love the fat girls. Or else, this BBW porn wouldn't be so huge. No pun intended, of course.
 

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I think it's because there are some women that are attracted to fat dudes or insert X type dudes, but because fat dudes don't have as much social status they won't act on it.
 

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I can give my 2 cents. I used to be really fat and I've lost a bunch of weight. I can definitely say that with each 10 to 20 lbs I lost I would get more and more attention from women. I'm down to 250 right now and I can't wait to see what the next 30 to 40 lbs will hold...

I never liked BBW's but that was all I could get when I was fat and it was always like we were "settling" for each other. I got tired of settling so I made changes.
 

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MindAtEase said:
Men, however, genuinely love the fat girls.

There are so many things wrong with that statement I don't know where to begin!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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joey2times said:
Just an observation, but how many times have you heard that women don't place as much emphasis on looks as men? That women are much more inclined to be attracted to your personality than vice versa?

If that's so, how come you see these BBW(Big Beautiful Women) sites all over the internet, but none for fat guys? It seems that some men are more than happy to entertain the thought of rolling around in the hay with these HOGS, but women don't seem to reciprocate? If women aren't into looks as much as men, why don't they flock in droves to fat guys with great personalities?

We all know that looks matter, and there's nothing wrong with that. My issue is that women are just as shallow as us guys, yet we're the ones being told all we look for is T and A.
You're just now learning this?
 

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Thanks for the reminder of that RT :D
 

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I don’t know where that whole idea about women not being concerned about looks comes from but it definitely isn’t true. It is just that women tend to pay attention to body language a little more than men and read more into it. They’ll say things like, “he looks smart” or “he looks honest” but they are always really saying that they like the way a guy looks.

Typically when I meet a woman who I end up dating, she’ll show interest before I ever say anything to her, some excessively so.

There was one woman who knocked on my door shortly after having moved into an apartment. She explained that she wanted to meet me after her and her friends had spent the previous day watching me and my friends move my stuff into my apartment. If women didn’t care about looks then what were these women doing watching me and my friends?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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