Women are a muse

[Medina]

Teach sir. Teach. Explain how your wife went against society to be a strong supportive wife?

It's controversial but this is the closest thing I've seen that explains it

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It's controversial but this is the closest thing I've seen that explains it

Basically be a little more pf a dyck and less predictable. Step back occasionally to make her seek your validation.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

The other part of this guys preaching is by doing these behaviors you are literally NEVER controlled by her. Your masculine presense preserved. She will long to have you but you keep it barely out of reach.

 

[samspade]

Why are you on this site? To get women. Look above and you will see I said that at the end, you do it for yourself (the 1%) for the other 99% using women as motivation to get off your ass is not bad

I think it's funny when guys say "I'm just on SS to improve myself." There are plenty of self-improvement resources online, but you landed on the one with the description "Learn the secrets of meeting, dating, attracting and seducing women"? That's like saying you went to PornHub to appreciate good cinematography.

Sex built civilizations, started wars, and got us to the moon. That doesn't mean you're not accomplishing great things for you, however. Even if you're trying to get laid, you're doing it out of a selfish interest to enjoy the pleasure and company of a woman. Too many men are afraid to acknowledge that, even on an anonymous red pill site.

And oh by the way, the reason men with ambitions outside of women can be so successful with women is...women are attracted to men with ambitions outside of women. What a coincidence.

Where the problem lies is when men only do things to get laid and don't focus on the stretch of road ahead of them, or of the accomplishment as an end in itself. And if you choose a muse who turns into a bytch, you're in for a world of misery if you're not smart or skilled enough to detach. Unfortunately in the 21st century West you'll have to sift through a lot of garbage before you find a woman who can live up to the title, but they're out there.

 

[Epic Days]

I agree. My ex was my muse. I started a 6-7 figure business right when I met her because of meeting her. I was a bartender before. The problem with having them as a muse, is that when they leave, so does most of your motivation. Even if you didn’t make her the center of your life (I certainly didnt, I did the opposite actually). This is currently my situation after 6 years together. So... try to find another muse lol

Valid point. Women are the beauty of the world. IMO they have been damaged far more than men in this debacle we call modern society.

Like @Spaz pointed out there is a lot to the scenario of women going to work. It also doubles the tax base. A whole different subject entirely. Is it a natural progression of society? I think not when looked at from the position of society outrunning Genetic adaptation.

It's kind of like eating grains. The idea being that we will genetically adapt to handle grains if we continue to eat them. Except that one will still live at least long enough to procreate despite eating grains. If it starts to block procreation then there will be an adaptation.
As we are all carrying primitive era genetics it remains as it has always been. Men will need to rediscover their masculinity because the way things are now, it won't change the way we are surviving. Women will not help us to do this. We are literally on our own. We are the leaders. To expect women, who have a socialistic procreation program, to sort this out is virtually impossible. Expecting them to turn their lives around to benefit us or beating them down because they don't fit the paradigm of what we call civilization is incredibly stupid and the Lamentations of a weak man.

Our world is an illusion.

 

[Epic Days]

The problem with having them as a muse, is that when they leave, so does most of your motivation.

and this:

Im EXTREMELY productive when I have a girlfriend, it gives a sense of focus and achievement.

This is our Achilles heel. This is some seriously embedded feminine imperative stuff. This is what Vishen Lakhiani call's a "Brule", a bull$hit rule or programmed way of thinking. It's not natural.
Leaders do not think..."I need a woman behind me to feel whole or a girlfriend to elevate my chemicals so I feel motivated to accomplish my goals.". This is programming from birth and is a wholly feminine trait. A woman is not an accomplishment. She is an addition to your overall plan. So if there are no women available do you just lay down and die or fail to accomplish things? Men are high production machines. This was embedded in our social structure since the beginning of the rise of civilization.

The church found that men worked harder if they knew they had a woman. At least that's what we have been told is history. Let me postulate this...man was evolving and surviving gloriously, long before the church. If fact nearly 100% of his development was before the church. Yet now, they will work harder if they have a woman? Work harder for who?

These things are embedded very deep. Removing them is a lot of work and doesn't happen overnight. These things are social constructs. They actually hold you down. Believe me, I know how it feels when I've had what I believed to be a good woman. Pretty powerful. But for most men, they leave, and he sinks into something dark and paralyzing. So right on cue he struggles to find that place again with another woman. That's how powerful social programming is. IN other words...you are nothing but a lump of clay unless you have a full time, over the top, fantastic woman.

Firstly you have too much garbage still inside to shake off that universe. It is true that men and women compliment each other for optimum survival. Are you seeing optimum survival out there? Really? How faulty is your thinking? Do we just accept what we feel, like a woman or do we undo those programmed neural pathways that we formed early on?

It has been proven soundly that men who have accomplished something worthy in their own eyes...the women come. Yet we are programmed to reverse this and "feel" we need the woman first? Where did you get this idea? Just think about it. I'm in no position to tell a man how to live his life. Do you think you may be a production slave for interests that are not yours?

 

[daproest1]

and this:



This is our Achilles heel. This is some seriously embedded feminine imperative stuff. This is what Vishen Lakhiani call's a "Brule", a bull$hit rule or programmed way of thinking. It's not natural.
Leaders do not think..."I need a woman behind me to feel whole or a girlfriend to elevate my chemicals so I feel motivated to accomplish my goals.". This is programming from birth and is a wholly feminine trait. A woman is not an accomplishment. She is an addition to your overall plan. So if there are no women available do you just lay down and die or fail to accomplish things? Men are high production machines. This was embedded in our social structure since the beginning of the rise of civilization.

The church found that men worked harder if they knew they had a woman. At least that's what we have been told is history. Let me postulate this...man was evolving and surviving gloriously, long before the church. If fact nearly 100% of his development was before the church. Yet now, they will work harder if they have a woman? Work harder for who?

These things are embedded very deep. Removing them is a lot of work and doesn't happen overnight. These things are social constructs. They actually hold you down. Believe me, I know how it feels when I've had what I believed to be a good woman. Pretty powerful. But for most men, they leave, and he sinks into something dark and paralyzing. So right on cue he struggles to find that place again with another woman. That's how powerful social programming is. IN other words...you are nothing but a lump of clay unless you have a full time woman.

Firstly you have too much garbage still inside to shake off that universe. It is true that men and women compliment each other for optimum survival. Are you seeing optimum survival out there? Really? How faulty is your thinking? Do we just accept what we feel, like a woman or do we undo those programmed neural pathways that we formed early on?

It has been proven soundly that men who have accomplished something worthy in their own eyes...the women come. Yet we are programmed to reverse this and "feel" we need the woman first? Where did you get this idea? Just think about it. I'm in no position to tell a man how to live his life. Do you think you may be a production slave for interests that are not yours?

It wasn’t on purpose. She came. I re-evaluated my life, and leveled up consistently for 6 years until she left. It was instinctual. Not social conditioning, or anything of the sort. Never even felt inspired by a woman before her. I’d get bored of them all after a few months. Pretty weird feeling. Hard to explain.

 

[Epic Days]

It wasn’t on purpose. She came. I re-evaluated my life, and leveled up consistently for 6 years until she left. It was instinctual. Not social conditioning, or anything of the sort. Never even felt inspired by a woman before her. I’d get bored of them all after a few months. Pretty weird feeling. Hard to explain.

Oh, I get it. Truly. But I'm going to let my post ride on out. From my perspective, my perspective only, that neural pathway exists. It automates the reward/punishment circuit. Get an amazing woman? Reward. Dont have an amazing woman? Punishment.
So men run around like machines with a fantasy in their heads and the dream of the possibility of the amazing woman so they can be optimized. Or they find all the faults of women because the amazing woman might not exist. The feminine imperative is banking on it.

Where did that idea come from anyway?

 

[logicallefty]

I see the OPs point. It’s a rare and special feeling when you find a genuine feminine woman to interact with. I recently met such a woman at work who I feel the masculine feminine balance with. But it’s true there aren’t many women in the West who you can still do this with anymore. Too many western women want to be men and that is what has screwed everything up. They want to dominate and make you submit. This particular woman is married, plus I have a GF for right now anyway. So while I flirt in a non sexual way with the chick at work, and she flurts back, i won’t be the first to make any serious moves. Now if for some reason she would make a move on me I would do a hard-core reassessment of the entire situation. I really do dig this chick and it’s because of the masculine feminine vibe that we have with each other. She’s not quite as hot as my girlfriend but she is oh so much more fun to be around.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I see the OPs point. It’s a rare and special feeling when you find a genuine feminine woman to interact with. I recently met such a woman at work who I feel the masculine feminine balance with. But it’s true there aren’t many women in the West who you can still do this with anymore. Too many western women want to be men and that is what has screwed everything up. They want to dominate and make you submit. This particular woman is married, plus I have a GF for right now anyway. So while I flirt in a non sexual way with the chick at work, and she flurts back, i won’t be the first to make any serious moves. Now if for some reason she would make a move on me I would do a hard-core reassessment of the entire situation. I really do dig this chick and it’s because of the masculine feminine vibe that we have with each other. She’s not quite as hot as my girlfriend but she is oh so much more fun to be around.

Feels good to be treated like a man by a feminine woman.

 

[daproest1]

Feels good to be treated like a man by a feminine woman.

Until it stops lmao

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Until it stops lmao

Throw her azz out like trash they do us

 

[daproest1]

Throw her azz out like trash they do us

When it stops, IS when they throw us out. In my case at least.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

When it stops, IS when they throw us out. In my case at least.

Have women

 

[Spaz]

Feels good to be treated like a man by a feminine woman.

Yes.

And all you need as a man is to be masculine.

But takes a whole village of men to mentor a youngling into a masculine man.

The process is years in the making.

A complete shift of mindset that goes against the very fabric of society you're grown up in.

It will be extremely hard as men from childhood have been programmed by their own mother's, teachers, older sisters, female friends etc — on how to be manly.

How is it that females knows what's takes to be a man when they're never even been one for even a nano second?

They are merely teaching (brainwashing) men how they wish to be treated.

 

[Spaz]

When I re read what I wrote it doesn't make much sense with all the auto correction that my new android phone is making hahaha

Let you boys figure it out then.

 

[daproest1]

Yes.

And all you need as a man is to be masculine.

But takes a whole village of men to mentor a youngling into a masculine man.

The process is years in the making.

A complete shift of mindset that goes against the very fabric of society you're grown up in.

It will be extremely hard as men from childhood have been programmed by their own mother's, teachers, older sisters, female friends etc — on how to be manly.

How is it that females knows what's takes to be a man when they're never even been one for even a nano second?

They are merely teaching (brainwashing) men how they wish to be treated.

Even then they STILL fvcking leave. My brother always told me. “U must cheat”

 

[RetiredArchitect]

Yes.

And all you need as a man is to be masculine.

But takes a whole village of men to mentor a youngling into a masculine man.

The process is years in the making.

A complete shift of mindset that goes against the very fabric of society you're grown up in.

It will be extremely hard as men from childhood have been programmed by their own mother's, teachers, older sisters, female friends etc — on how to be manly.

How is it that females knows what's takes to be a man when they're never even been one for even a nano second?

They are merely teaching (brainwashing) men how they wish to be treated.

I am not one to usually complain about this kind of society-wide stuff so give me a moment.

The difficulty of acting like a man in the current political/social climate is the lack of a positive feedback loop for young boys and men for when they do act like men.

Schools/workplaces enforce unnatural policy and regulation which confuse men and move away from logical productivity/efficiency and more towards average. They encourage (borderline force now) the leadership of women whilst simultaneously attacking men (usually white). To be honest in the sick systems we find ourselves within in the west, there is no way for a man to win (masculine or unmasculine).

A man within such systems needs to put his self interest above anything else (which is the complete opposite of how civilisation as we know it was built). He will likely only be able to trust the validation he gets from learning about himself and the goals he achieves. Society as we know it fails to recognise the truths/paths which made our civilisation great and instead puts on the pedestals victims and hive mind thinkers.

It's an amazing thing to understand about how much empathy and love a man can have for his community; his kids, his woman and his neighbours. However we live in a society now where a man is forced to forego his altruism to instead always focus on his self interest first and foremost before he can give scraps to think about anyone else.

Back to the title, there is nothing more euphoric for a man than feeling the intertwining of his masculine energy with a woman who has matching feminine energy. I have many times in my experienced such relationships (sometimes platonic) with women who brought out great productivity within us both.

 

[Epic Days]

How is it that females knows what's takes to be a man when they're never even been one for even a nano second?

That is one hell of a good point.

 

[glass half full]

Bob Dylan- it takes a woman like you, to get through to the man in me

But the opposite is also true. When I met my wife she made it clear she would never be my housewife. And here we are years later, she is my housewife. Cooking new and interesting foods and sexy underwear is all she cares about. Why? Because I am her man. She has naturally fallen into that role. It's been amazing to watch

Feminism can be REVERSED

Wow, how'd you pull that off?