bigjohnson
Master Don Juan
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That women don't know what they want but we talk with them anyway? Do I get a pony?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Shucks. I never get the pony. I have painted a few faces though ....penkitten said:http://sc.tri-bit.com/Pony
no, you can't have a pony. not yours.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
1. because we are scared sissies usuallyInterceptor said:Ok. now I got some questions.
Why don't women approach men more?
What is your normal MO when approaching, or at least "opening the door" to a man?
I will approach a guy if I'm interested. Usually though it's more of 'putting myself in their vicinity' instead of openly hitting on them.Interceptor said:Ok. now I got some questions.
Why don't women approach men more?
What goes through your mind in these instances?
What kind of circumstances, inward and o u t w a r d, influence your decision to approach or not?
What is your normal MO when approaching, or at least "opening the door" to a man?
Yes, I did! You can pm me the story if you want my take on things or just want to tell me.BlackJackal said:I never worry about what a woman wants anymore anyway. I just worry about how they respond to me. By the way Lexie did you read my answer to your question the my ladyfriend I slept with?
haha ok ...Interceptor said:A ha! Penny , so you're just a scaredy cat?!!
LOL.
Anyway, I think you misunderstood the "opening the door." What I meant was not Opening a door for a man in the literal sense, I mean hinting that you're interested in him. Basically, using body langiage to get the attention of a man, and encouraging him to approach you.
Penny: (looks at Interceptor seductively) "Hi" (and smiles seductively looking down and then back at him)
Interceptor: (raises eyebrow) (slowly turns her direction) "Hey , kitty kat. What are you up to this delightful evening?"(as he smoothly approaches Penny as if gliding across the floor in slow motion)
...and the seduction begins.
That's what I was talking about!
:kick: Girls are silly.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Yeah, grocery store checkout lines are a meat market in more ways than one. What's up with that? Does buying a gallon of milk just get a girls juices flowing or what?Lexie said:... If a girl you've never met chats you up, you've got to know she's interested.
You're on a man forum. Decency? Haven't you heard of "the myth of the decent man"?Lexie said:If you're going to insult me with star wars references at least have the decency to explain them to me.
iqqi said:I don't know what you mean by this exactly. Are you saying that some chick judged you harshly-er than she would have another guy because you aren't a supermodel?
Actually, I should have rephrased that better. The way the whole cookie thing happened is I got myself a cookie. Then they had a deal (buy one, get two free). So not needing 3 cookies in a day, I offered her one of her choice. So I got one, she got the "free one" and I took the other free cookie home to the parents.iqqi said:Why are you trying to buy her a cookie anyways, don't you know that is AFC!? She won't respect you in the morning! You are going to FAIL her sh!t test!
Yeah. I don't ask women out after 3 minutes of knowing them. I usually have to build up some relationship and get fairly comfortable (but not TOO comfortable or be too late in the "relationship") first.iqqi said:Lol, I know what you are talking about, I have seen this happen. But before you asked them out, were you even on speaking terms to begin with?
Nope. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.iqqi said:Some women hate to reject, so they will avoid you to spare your feelings, or her own. If that makes sense.
Oh no, so what if I ask a woman out 1 time, and then, oh god forbid, 5 months later, I might consider asking again, if I think things might be better. That would just be the worst thing, for women to say the word "no" twice in a 3 month period. What a big inconvenience!iqqi said:Some guys also don't take no for an answer, and by nodding back, women invite men like that to try again. She just doesn't want you to try again, or misread her "signals."
Sigh, I keep having to say this.bigjohnson said:That women don't know what they want but we talk with them anyway? Do I get a pony?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Because you're wrong. They have been programmed to THINK they want a lot of things but those are not the things that deep down they are wired to need. Thus if they succeed in getting what they think they want they become unhappy and start looking for a fix to their unhappiness.NickSCFC2000 said:Sigh, I keep having to say this.
Hey us guys do the same.bigjohnson said:Because you're wrong. They have been programmed to THINK they want a lot of things but those are not the things that deep down they are wired to need. Thus if they succeed in getting what they think they want they become unhappy and start looking for a fix to their unhappiness.
Short version: Women don't know what they want.
LOL, BINGO!NickSCFC2000 said:Hey us guys do the same.
I actually do agree with this to an extent. Women are very 'programmed'. Blame it on every chick click/romance novel ever made. We're shown a version of romance, and told 'hey this is what romance looks like, this is how it should be', so it can become hard to recognize it in other forms. Then some women do encounter the 'movie-style' romance and find they don't like it. So there's a lot of soul-searching that has to be done, and can only be done via trial-and-error in dating.bigjohnson said:Because you're wrong. They have been programmed to THINK they want a lot of things but those are not the things that deep down they are wired to need.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.