Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Okay not be dumb or anything but this chick I have been chatting with his 9HB, but has two older kids. I got first date with her next week. How do I know if this chick would be open in to just FukBud or casual dating, nothing serious. Personally for me I don't want any LTR, just trying to more experience in dating hotter chicks.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
If she has MINOR kids or kids that live with her (regardless of the age), my answer is "NO WAY!"Rollo said:Would any of you guys out here date a woman with kid or multiple kids?
If so, why?
If not, why not?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I have to disagree. Let's get into your point of view:Divorce should be as illegal as murder.
I've heard it as the norm that people who come from divorced parents are horribly damaged. Here's where the debate comes into effect:Divorce damages the children unbelievably. It gives them “problems”, and diminishes their marketability when comes their time to mate.
You married an already damaged woman. It wasn't her upbringing that damaged her, but her terrible choice in her first husband. You, the knight in shining armour, came into the picture to save her and her kids! She took your horse and fvcked off.I married, for the first time in my life to a woman with two great boys.
Good Post RT.Rollo Tomassi said:Proactive cheating is the single Mommy dillema. This form of 'cheating' relies on the woman breeding with a Good Genes male, bearing his children and then abandoning him, or having him abandon her, (again through invented social conventions) in order to find a Good Dad male to provide for her and the children of her Good Genes partner to ensure their security.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Another good point.Vulpine said:I'm only going to add that bad parents are bad parents regardless of whether they are married or divorced. I'm not saying anyone here is guilty of bad parenting, I'm pointing out that you can't blame a kid's behavior on a divorce.
Bad parents are just bad parents. They can be happily married, unhappily married, whatever. When parents let their children run amok, it's not because they had too many meatloafs for dinner or their parents were swingers. Some people just suck at child rearing. Next time you see a kid in a supermarket throwing a temper tantrum in the candy isle, pay attention to what you think. Is it: "I wonder if he/she's married or single." or "Great job, lady/dude. Way to handle that."
Very good point. Another thing that can be thrown into the mix is whether or not the child has personally dealt with their toxic upbringing through therapy or self-improvement. Unfortunately, people who deal with their parents' "mistakes" seem to make up a small percentage of our population.I'm only going to add that bad parents are bad parents regardless of whether they are married or divorced.
For example, I resented my parents for having been divorced for a good long time. It was only when I was old enough to understand the reasons did I drop my resentment. I suppose you could call it a "self-improvement" of sorts - I was turning a negative outlook into a more positive one. My father was a drunk, and therefore, a lousy parent and an extremely bad influence. My mother, for both self-serving reasons and the protection of her kids, removed the negative influence via divorce.Desdinova said:Very good point. Another thing that can be thrown into the mix is whether or not the child has personally dealt with their toxic upbringing through therapy or self-improvement.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.