okay why did she send me gifts for then? explain that one wizard man. the package alone cost $22 plus all the other stuff inside .. all up it would of been over $50 at least. weird yes, but why do that? to fish me into her little murder trap? lol.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
LoneWolf said:okay why did she send me gifts for then? explain that one wizard man. the package alone cost $22 plus all the other stuff inside .. all up it would of been over $50 at least. weird yes, but why do that? to fish me into her little murder trap? lol.
i think the story is he is in England(or somewhere in UK) and she is in US so he is coming here5string said:My question is this:
Why don't you just ask her to come over to the US and see you?
You'll then be on your own turf and it will be much more difficult to harvest your kidneys or your meatwhistle.
is it that hard to post up her real pics?blackwolf said:posted links before of what she looks like. that's as close as you can get man.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
lol who knows ey. ill decide wether i go through with this if i get all the money in my hand when i visit moneygram. i also told her if she was comfortable with all this but it doesnt look like money is an issue with her. i think she wants marriage to be honest and she thinks i will go along with her little plan. she DID mention "i don't have to fall in love or anything, just be friends and travel together." lol. LOOK FUK STOP POSTING I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUK TO SAY ANYMORE. i will just have to keep updating. SHEESHAlle_Gory said:She's playing on your sense of greed which is a very powerful motivator for most people.
"Oooh, FREE STUFF! Wow, I get a FREE TRIP!" - You
She's doing this because she wants something. Maybe it's a scam, maybe she's hiding something, who knows but what I do know is that there's an ulterior motive. I can't wait for the update after this goes down.
Why is money not an issue? What kind of business is she in?LoneWolf said:i also told her if she was comfortable with all this but it doesnt look like money is an issue with her.
i know shes loaded thats why. her car, neighborhood (seen the street and houses) her inside of the house, all her rooms everything. she works at dupoint she said. some kinda lab scientist. this is what she tells me anyway. but im sure shes loaded if shes sending me money and packages that cost a fair bit. the address on the package is in the same state she lives in .. she told me it wasnt her address but it could be a lie maybe she didnt trust me when i asked at the time. i just dont know man. all these questions are blank to me. this is all things that came from her mouth and pictures i seen (the pictures are real i fuking swear to god. i keep telling everyone she took a pic of her holding the same card/letter with my name on it and i received the same one.)Alle_Gory said:Why is money not an issue? What kind of business is she in?
Also, for clarification. You mentioned before the package she sent you. That was not sent from her address? Where did it come from then?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
i've tried that already long ago. looked up her work website, looked for her name on the site, some websites have her name (i still dont know her last name for sure) but its impossible to know for sure who she is. she told me her real name is on the package. but her last name on her email is different. all i know is she lives in texas, houston. 38 years old, first name and possibly last name. dont worry though, im planning on getting her on cam before i do any of this and seeing if i get the money. also getting her to call me (she was the one who said i can call your phone the other day). only time will tell.5string said:Maybe do an internet search on her to include social networking sites? Decent chance you'll get a hit or two and find out more about her.
Another thing. Since she's in the US and you know where, determine the county she lives in, do a search for that counties repository website. Then you enter her name and see if she has a criminal history. If you need more info on how to do this, pm me.
You don't know her last name, her address, or her phone number....and you are wanting to fly to the USA to see this complete stranger?LoneWolf said:i've tried that already long ago. looked up her work website, looked for her name on the site, some websites have her name (i still dont know her last name for sure) but its impossible to know for sure who she is. she told me her real name is on the package. but her last name on her email is different. all i know is she lives in texas, houston. 38 years old, first name and possibly last name. dont worry though, im planning on getting her on cam before i do any of this and seeing if i get the money. also getting her to call me (she was the one who said i can call your phone the other day). only time will tell.
Try this.LoneWolf said:i've tried that already long ago. looked up her work website, looked for her name on the site, some websites have her name (i still dont know her last name for sure) but its impossible to know for sure who she is. she told me her real name is on the package. but her last name on her email is different. all i know is she lives in texas, houston. 38 years old, first name and possibly last name. dont worry though, im planning on getting her on cam before i do any of this and seeing if i get the money. also getting her to call me (she was the one who said i can call your phone the other day). only time will tell.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
There are gullible men who get sucked into scams like this. Saw a show on tv about it and they lost all their money even though they were poor. I thought this post was the same at first. But the more I read of what he is writing it sounds more and more fake to me as I first suspected. Even more so as he makes fun of it and members who are giving advice. He won't post a pic of this woman, hasn't got the money yet, seems like he wants to drag this out each day. His grammar and the way he writes, doesn't sound like a 26 year old to me. Made a thread about a gf he was hung up on and now has no interest, meets the asain woman, posted a thread this morning asking for advice for a date, and then when I give him advice, he edits the entire thing 2 or 3 times and takes out all his questions and changes everything around and his story.LoneWolf said:okay why did she send me gifts for then? explain that one wizard man. the package alone cost $22 plus all the other stuff inside .. all up it would of been over $50 at least. weird yes, but why do that? to fish me into her little murder trap? lol.
Agree with all of this.cordoncordon said:The bottom line is you are determined to go ahead and do this because you are lonely and desperate. If that other girl you had kinda been seeing had kept wanting to date you, you wouldn't be doing this. But because of her rejection, you are panicking and saying to yourself this is better than nothing? Am I right? I know I am.
I can only tell you that if I were you, and some girl from lets say Germany was offering me all this and wanting me to fly across the ocean to see her like this girl is you? Awww hell no would I be going. Or if I did, I would do some big time investigating first. Your life bro.
Also, one thing to correct you on. Purely grammatical. It's a "round trip" ticket. Not a "return flight". Sorry I had to say it.![]()
You know I didn't even think of that. A 23 year old virgin? Yeah that sounds delightful! A 38 year old one? Assuming this is even true (which I don't believe). Sounds kind of meh to me.runner83 said:OP, you are an idiot.
Even if it is legit, what's the best thing that could happen?
Get laid by a 38 yo woman who has no experience? For fvck's sake, get yourself some other real options and fast!
This is the mother fvckin' ultimate example of buffers:
Buffers
The OP is (even if he won't admit it to himself) focusing on this impossible situation so that he doesn't have to face his anxiety and approach other chicks where there is a hope in hell of it working out.
Stop deluding yourself and start taking the steps you need on the way to improving yourself as a man.
Look the OP is broke and thinks he found a sugar mamma. She knows what she's doing (trying to lure him by playing on his greed) and he knows what he wants (someone to pay for his **** and buy him shiny trinkets).cordoncordon said:You know I didn't even think of that. A 23 year old virgin? Yeah that sounds delightful! A 38 year old one? Assuming this is even true (which I don't believe). Sounds kind of meh to me.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.