"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Witnessed A Great DJ/PUA Example...

Sinistar

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This weekend while out with wife and friends I witnessed something that brought a smile. One of my buddy's friends came out to meet us. He's one of those natural DJ/PUA/Alpha types. You know, if you told him about this forumn he'd just laugh it off.

Anyways, early on he spots this fine HB (I'll say 7.5-8 range). He immediately approaches (zero fear of rejection) and opens the HB. She responds exactly: "I'm here with my boyfriend." Without missing a beat, with the perfect c0cky attitude and grin he says "Well I'm not interested in your boyfriend." ...by the end of the evening he was making out with her in the bar, in front of the *boyfriend* who watched the entire thing and did nothing to intervene.

Its awesome watching someone work who has completely killed off their fear of rejection. And the other dude was never a *boyfriend*, he was just her convient AFC defense shield / puppy / girlfriend. And those shields literally dropped with just one sentence spoken with true confidence.

For the PUA/DJ dude, he's got so much confidence that he's simply re-inforcing at this point.

Now let's hope that pathetic beta AFC *boyfriend* will seek out answers to his [probably] painful experience. It's times like that when I wish Sosuave had a business card with a great slogan and simple web address. I would have handed it to the chump - he looked like he was ready for it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ouch for the other guy...I wonder if your friend knew they were not together through body language.

BTW people bring up pua stuff to me all the time (when im spitten game like a pimp man) and I never say that I use it/know about it/whatever.
It is one thing to say your a pua or dating specialist but studing girls online with other guys is a no-no. Plus i don't want anyonme else to know it works :)
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Sinistar said:
...Now let's hope that pathetic beta AFC *boyfriend* will seek out answers to his [probably] painful experience. It's times like that when I wish Sosuave had a business card with a great slogan and simple web address. I would have handed it to the chump - he looked like he was ready for it.
FYI, the guy wasn't her boyfriend, he was a friend who was a boy(guy/afc). Not detracting from your bud, he handled it appropriately but c'mon, see it for what it is. If the "boyfriend" was actually her boyfriend, he would have stepped in AND she would have retreated to her boyfriend's "safe zone."
 

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Sinistar said:
Without missing a beat, with the perfect c0cky attitude and grin he says "Well I'm not interested in your boyfriend." ...
This is friggin' NAILS!
 

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Yeah, I absolutely loved that line. Just hearing it [live] had several of us chuckling.

And yeah, as I said, the other guy was [very likely] much more her puppy dog than her Alpha dog. Yet, the best part. My buddy's friend just blazed right through it with such a simple, perfect line. Only a few would have approached her in the first place (90% of all guys being AFC to start with). And every AFC who received her response would have bowed out. This dude did the exact opposite, immediately threw the ball right back in her court - with a wicked spin to boot. She'd probably never had that happen to her before!

Since someone asked, her supposed *boyfriend* was no where in sight when this guy approached. He came up later. He definitely did not look happy (no matter what his real status was).

Being AFC hurts for a reason - it's your inner DJ trying to wake you up from a mindless slumber. I'm thinking this other guy finally woke up.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Sinistar said:
...Since someone asked, her supposed *boyfriend* was no where in sight when this guy approached. He came up later. He definitely did not look happy (no matter what his real status was).
He probably spent his weeks allowance to get her into the club and buy her drinks... :p
 

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she sounds like marriage material.
 

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It's the best thing for that guy too. He knows not to waste any more time on her. Sometimes you need that kick in the ass.
 

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Nice, but would a guy honestly want to be serious with a girl that uses other men?
 

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betterthandead said:
Nice, but would a guy honestly want to be serious with a girl that uses other men?
...trust me, he's not the type of guy who will fall in love with a woman who was that easy to close. This guy is a master at spinning plates (from what my friend tells me). She's just another plate (that turned out to be easy to spin).
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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betterthandead said:
Nice, but would a guy honestly want to be serious with a girl that uses other men?
Take a raw T-Bone steak and wave it in front of a Doberman, what's the dog going to do? He's going eat it, and probably take half your hand down with it; it's what a Doberman does. Put a doormat AFC in front of a woman and she'll do the same thing.

Women only use men who'll alow themselves to be used.
 
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