"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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WIPFR: Food Store Girl

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Another approach.

I've seen this chick at the local grocery store a few times, casual passing chat, nothing big, until last night.

I have odd sleeping patterns after a work weekend, so I slept from 5pm or so to 11, and didn't fall asleep until 3am (actually..I was getting more awake). So, I decided to hit the store, get some required edibles. Again, not another intended pick up attempt, but when I finished up my shopping and hit the one cash lane open, there's none other then the girl I've passively talked to. So, I open her, ask her how exciting her night shift is, talked about my work (and lack of sleep, hence why I was at the store), and some other crap. Looks good so far, she's talking back.

So, genious strikes again (I'll call it the Docs' Effect from now on!), and I tell her to walk me to my car. She says she can't leave her lane, let alone the store. Alright, to the door then! She again, repeats that she can't leave her lane because she'll get in trouble. I bluntly look around at the empty store, and look back at her and tell her to take my hand *extend my hand* and walk me to the door.

What does she do, she complies. Walks me to the door, and I bust on her for being naughty for wanting to break rules for me, she laughs. I say goodbye and I leave.
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So again, another unintentional approach leads to a bit of rapport. We'll see where this goes. :rockon:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Hmm.. Good job, so what do you look for docs? relationships or one-nighters?

Either way, I wish you luck with her. Keep going back there! Just make sure to number close one of these times.
 

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I look at an approach as a chance to have some fun. I only focus on progression from the start at a club, but in normal life, you can't focus on that, because it'll throw your game off.

I'm not focused in getting numbers, dates, kisses, sex, girlfriends. I'm focused in 'in the moment'. I want to vibe with whoever I talk to, have fun doing it, and if she wants to see me again, or is happy when she sees me, I have done what I wanted.

It's only when she wants to see me again, that I'll focus a little bit more on a potential pickup.

I was VERY close to asking Miss Coffee out on some form of an outting, but as chance may have it, she's going away for 2 weeks, AND I get the headsup she's taken...somewhat.

Just remember, if you can get her to want to see you again, you are successful. There's no two ways about it. Play your cards right, and she'll develop feelings on her own, and I caught Coffee admitting them. :) You should see how I busted the girl that went to Ottawa to take a bartending course, she openly admitted she wanted to kiss me.

It's all in how you handle and control the situation, and I KNOW I'm going to continue to build a list of girls that are interested in me, and ONE WILL BITE. I know that for a fact.
 

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Props. Keep us updated. I know these FR's are time consuming to write. Maybe just report back when you have a close of some kind: number/date/kiss/sex. Saves time.

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Another approach.

I've seen this chick at the local grocery store a few times, casual passing chat, nothing big, until last night.

I have odd sleeping patterns after a work weekend, so I slept from 5pm or so to 11, and didn't fall asleep until 3am (actually..I was getting more awake). So, I decided to hit the store, get some required edibles. Again, not another intended pick up attempt, but when I finished up my shopping and hit the one cash lane open, there's none other then the girl I've passively talked to. So, I open her, ask her how exciting her night shift is, talked about my work (and lack of sleep, hence why I was at the store), and some other crap. Looks good so far, she's talking back.

So, genious strikes again (I'll call it the Docs' Effect from now on!), and I tell her to walk me to my car. She says she can't leave her lane, let alone the store. Alright, to the door then! She again, repeats that she can't leave her lane because she'll get in trouble. I bluntly look around at the empty store, and look back at her and tell her to take my hand *extend my hand* and walk me to the door.

What does she do, she complies. Walks me to the door, and I bust on her for being naughty for wanting to break rules for me, she laughs. I say goodbye and I leave.
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So again, another unintentional approach leads to a bit of rapport. We'll see where this goes. :rockon:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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damn Docs, I'm going to start modelling my life after you from now on. You are a pimp.

I don't really see how you get to know these girls in the first place, tho. I usually don't notice the same employee twice when I go out to places. Do you just hit up Kroger and the coffee shop every other day?
 

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thick: I have a very odd schedule, thus I have the time (and my typing speed is more then efficient. And also, hence the WIP addition, it tells you that it's a work in progress, thus something could come out of of it or not.

Obsidian: You would be AMAZED at how standard a shift is. People do not like working a night shift, shove a afternoon in there, follow it with a morning twice, day off, night shift. Nope, they live to have one set schedule, either night, day, morning, what have you.

Again, I don't do this for the pickup. I don't prowl coffee shops and stores for the sole purpose of finding chicks (lol!). This is during my day, I went to the store to get food, lucked in. I get a lot of coffee, lucked in. Went to the mall, lucked in. That's all this is, along with fine-tuning my interaction skills.

Failure to me is when I get blown off and get the don't talk to me signal. Since I don't get those, I'm already successful. I already said it up there, but end state is not a goal, it's a side effect. All these girls that love to see me again, they develop a level of interest inside all by themselves. The more girls I meet, the more interest to go around.

So, after a few weeks of solid interest building (you'll also notice I don't chuck out a lot of lines, welcome to natural game my friends), some girls 'slip' and I find out she's a little more interested then I'd thought. That's the even BETTER part, because I'm not displaying 'date me' interest, and they just went ahead and let it slip (or maybe, I can just read people on a dime, lol). In whatever case, I have control at all times, I dictate the conversation, the TIMES to meet them, and I always got something up my sleeve to amuse them and show them just how cool I am.

So, when I have a little pile of girls that like me to varying degrees, that makes it all the easier to isolate, because I'm still not focused on end state, and hey, they like me already!
 

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I like your style, Docs. It's what I would describe as the "man-within" technique.... :cool:
 

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She works the night shift at a grocery store? That shouldn't be a challenge. At that point she should jump anything that can get her out of that line of work.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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What he means is this:

"Docs is too confident and I'm going to see if I can try to bring him down."

Basically Sparky is trying to find a reason she left the line for you OTHER than the fact that she was interested.

I hope you don't do that with your own game, sparky.
 

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Hmm i was operating under the assumption that this girl was about 18-22. It's not exactly "desperate times for woman going no where" yet.

Docs, you're only 21 or 22...?
 
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AAA, CoI, APD

FR - Mar 25
WIPFR(Store) - Mar 20
FR - Mar 18
WIPFR(Coffee) - Mar 16
FR - Mar 2
FR - Feb 18

C&E Theory
GTA
Sarge On!
Flirting, Basis of Game




While your thread has a nice little approach, what is with the signature?? your signature is EXACTLY what dating and getting girls is NOT about -> which is math formulas and theories........seriously, are you ok bud?

if you weren't so busy analyzing, you could have nailed this food store girl during her night shift. If you only let your natural male take over instead of running WIPFR (what the hell???) and what ever else was in your head
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm fine. How you doing?

Theory ain't the problem, it's only the fact that uhh..03-20-2007, 11:37 PM

What's that, almost 4 weeks since I've even seen this chick, and counting?

FYI, WIP means a work in progress. Suggestively so, it means that I should expect to update. A FR is a one-timer. Get it?
 
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why do you have a work in progress when all you gotta do is step up, invite her over to hang out and chill, and then lay the big Doc on her ;)

basically im wondering, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???

it's alot more fun to have a "completed and f-closed work" than a "work in progress"
 

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Because I have a real life that revolves around a err...16 hour workday every day?

I don't have the time to fully sarge, hell, I don't even have enough time to shut down and recover. The reason why it was a WIP is because I expected to update because I figured I'd see her again. Guess not, meh.

:), over-busy me.
 

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So do you sarge to keep your game up? What I'm trying to say here, is if not, #close yo!
 

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Somewhat. I enjoy a good sarge every one in a while. Problem is, I haven't sarged in ....whenever the last WIP got up just because I got wrapped up in a lot of work and HBSunglasses (the only open WIP) has kept me busy busy.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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