"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Winter / Cold-Weather Dates

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Anyone out there have any good ideas for relatively inexpensive winter / cold-weather dates? I did a search, but most of the previous posts seem like they're geared for 16 or 17 year-olds.

Coming up with date ideas always seems to be easier in the summer when there is a lot of stuff going on around town. Everything seems to dry up once the temperature drops.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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puma183

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It may sound cheesy but with one fitness-buff girl we had a first-date at the university gym pool which she used to go to (she was a grad-student). We did some laps, etc. Afterward we went to the sauna room of the same facility, where we made out.

As Borat would say "it is nice"!!!
 

thedeparted

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puma183 said:
It may sound cheesy but with one fitness-buff girl we had a first-date at the university gym pool which she used to go to (she was a grad-student). We did some laps, etc. Afterward we went to the sauna room of the same facility, where we made out.

As Borat would say "it is nice"!!!
Ooh, making out in the sauna... steamy! :yes:
 

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if theres an outside ice rink in your city then take your date there. Would be fun and no better place for kino !
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Desert Fox

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cedd said:
if theres an outside ice rink in your city then take your date there. Would be fun and no better place for kino !
yeah I did this before. pretty awesome...but try to be half decent at skating haha you should be the one supporting her.
 
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