"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

Winter Bootcamp

Neurosponge

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
36
Reaction score
0
Location
Rainycity
jdbman11 said:
After the 'think you're cute line' what do you follow up with?
Shoot I just wanted to use that as a direct approach so I don't worry about "what am I going to say." In the case of the redhead it was easy to ask her about the planner she was writing in, because I was genuinley interested. With the other chick, I followed up with asking where she was walking to...lame.

Dang so you number closed an hb9.5, that means she must be pretty smoking. How did you approach her?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

jdbman11

Don Juan
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
3
Location
Tx
Neurosponge said:
Shoot I just wanted to use that as a direct approach so I don't worry about "what am I going to say." In the case of the redhead it was easy to ask her about the planner she was writing in, because I was genuinley interested. With the other chick, I followed up with asking where she was walking to...lame.

Dang so you number closed an hb9.5, that means she must be pretty smoking. How did you approach her?
She is definitely smoking. It's hard not to call her an HB10. She works at the tanning salon so I have talked to her a couple times before. I will write out the entire convo tomorrow. I made quite a few AFC moves...
 

jdbman11

Don Juan
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
3
Location
Tx
alright so the HB9.5 situation went like this...

She's the manager at this place so i've talked to her a few times before. Just small talk. Honestly I had been too much of a nervous wreck to even talk to the girl about anything other than bs. The other day as I was going in she said "hey i need to talk to you" so I laughed and said "what did I do now" and she didn't tell me. So after I was done I came back up the front and there were like three customers. My AFC ass sat there and waited for all of them to go through just to know what this chick wanted to tell me. It ended up being that her employee's thought I was cute. I made nothing of it really. I was hoping that meant that she was really the one that thought I was cute. So then two of her employees walk in and their all sitting at the front desk looking at me. I should feel really confident in this situation, but instead I almost had a panic attack. Didn't know WTF to say. So I threw out some BS and left.
And yesterday she was up there alone when I got there. I have such a hard time hiding my interest for those I'm interested in. I'm pretty sure she knew I wanted to pick her up. Anyway here's how it went
me: hey whats up
her: haven't seen you in a while
me: yeah where ya been
her: here!
me: haha (afc blank spot)
me: how was your weekend
her: I worked alot. how was yours
me: Ah mine was crazy
(awkward silence, mother effin shi1 balls)
her: so what is your name? (checking me in)
me: laugh, oh cmon you have got to know my name by now
her: i know your face, but i'm so bad with names
(I swear this girl knows my name. I'm %100 positive)
me: well it's jdbman11
her: oh yeahhh ok i got it now
me: uh huh, so how bout you hook me up with a level 5 today
her: i guess I kind of owe you for forgetting your name huh
me: to say at the least
her: haha ok well room 23 is open
I go tan. While laying there I decided i wasn't going to leave until she gave me her number. I mean I was set on this. I walk back out and she makes fun of how dark I look.
me: haha shuuttt upp ( effin gay move)
her: you should buy this lotion
me: eh i dunno it's too pricey for me
her: cmon you know you like it
me: you just want my comission
her: haha!
me: how about this. I'm havin some people over saturday night. You make it over and I'll think about taking you up on that lotion
her: where do you live
me: here in this city
her: what? no way! You should have told me I was looking for something to do here last weekend
me: yep only five minutes away ( AFC !@#$@)
her: yeah I'm off saturday that would be great
another employee walks in and we kind of all talk about our age for a while.
me: so anyway give me number and i'll give you a call
her: i don't have a number (wtf) as she turns back to the other employee and starts talking about nonsense. when she finally turns around she tells me this crap story
her: oh I have to tell you this it's so funny. So last night yada yada this gorgeous guy yada yada didn't know what to do on his date and didn't talk about me at all yada yada so i had my friend pick me up and I dropped his ass
me: so you mean we're supposed to ask questions on dates
her: haha whatever this guy was a *******
me: i think you're just cold hearted
her: she gave me a look and turned to her employee and started talking AGAIN. this time totally left me out of the conversation. Left me standing there at the counter playing with my thumbs WAITING for this girls number. This goes on for atleast 1 minute. I'm to the point that she isn't going to give it out so I go..
me: Alright guys well i'm out of here yall have a good night
..as I'm walking out the door..
her: oh don't you want my number
me: actually I was going for friends number ( dunno why i said that)
her: haha whatever my number is ******
me: haha aight I'll call you, smile, leave

BALLS! She knows she's a 10. Told me date story, played games about her number, told me "her employees" liked me, ejected me out of conversations. And even though I KNOW what she's doing, it's still hard for me to know what the heck to say! The only reason I closed this was because of my looks. I'm going back in the salon today. I'm going to walk in looking like im in a hurry, probably say two or three words to her, go tan, and as I'm walking about I'll say something short and funny. (Any Idea's??) I don't plan on standing there chatting. I want her to know I have other things to do and that just because I have her number that doesn't mean shi1!!
 

Neurosponge

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
36
Reaction score
0
Location
Rainycity
haha yeah that def was a rocky convo, but props for pulling through!

Hmm well I can't rlly give that much advice, but I think that if you walked in there with another HB and had fun with her, that would send the message that the HB9.5 is nothing special.

Btw, tanning salon? in Texas? Come oooooon :p jk

As for the boot camp, I have a question. I notice that often when walking along the sidewalk, I will spot a girl from quite a distance away, and she'll notice me too, so we might make eye contact. Now, it will prolly take like 10 or so seconds before we are actually within talking distance...do I just focus on her eyes the whole time or what? Should I try not to "notice" her till I'm closer?
 

jdbman11

Don Juan
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
3
Location
Tx
Neurosponge said:
haha yeah that def was a rocky convo, but props for pulling through!

Hmm well I can't rlly give that much advice, but I think that if you walked in there with another HB and had fun with her, that would send the message that the HB9.5 is nothing special.

Btw, tanning salon? in Texas? Come oooooon :p jk

As for the boot camp, I have a question. I notice that often when walking along the sidewalk, I will spot a girl from quite a distance away, and she'll notice me too, so we might make eye contact. Now, it will prolly take like 10 or so seconds before we are actually within talking distance...do I just focus on her eyes the whole time or what? Should I try not to "notice" her till I'm closer?
haha eff off fuker it's winter. I don't know exactly what the best situation is when walking along the sidewalk, mall, store, etc.. Honestly I've been having alot of trouble with that too. I just try to keep my head and eyes up, think about something else until she gets close, and when she's about 15 feet away i'll look at something right above or behind her which will naturally cause her to look, then i look at her and smile. try it out. i'm sure there are other methods though
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

Mr. Bond

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 4, 2008
Messages
277
Reaction score
15
Location
Poundtown
I'm not going through a bunch of background info. I want to meet more women, pure and simple. I'm 24.

I've got 20 hi's so far. I'll take care of the rest tomorrow.


Jbman - good work. You have a lot to improve on, but you manned up and got out there. That's a big step. Stop beating yourself up over your mistakes. Expecting to be perfect at them the first time is ridiculous. Look at it like a musical instrument. Of COURSE you're going to struggle at first. No big deal. The important thing is that you PRACTICE (like you are doing), and you will improve.

Here's something else that will help. Take a look at how you spend your free time. Do you sit around playing video games or watching movies, etc? I know I used to. Start doing things that will improve yourself. I lift and run every other day, and practice guitar every day for at least an hour. Yes, the end results of these activities are things that girls like (being muscular and good at guitar), but the real value of these sorts of self-improving activities lies in the fact that I honestly feel like I am just as good or better than anyone I approach. Why? Because I've busted my ass working on constructive activities and made a lot of improvement. This removes any "faking confidence" or psyching myself up for approaches, dates, etc. It's become part of me. Give it a try.
 

jdbman11

Don Juan
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
3
Location
Tx
Hit 45 hi's today. I'm going to do an outing in the morning and then i should be at fifty plus. My EC is improving but I'm still trying not to stare alot. Makes me pretty self concious. How is everyone else doing?
 

ENIGMA16

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 21, 2009
Messages
764
Reaction score
21
I'm at 20 only because I've been sick :-/. Although I don't really care if I hit 50 because this part for me is pretty much natural. Next week is where I'll start to get rocky.
 

Neurosponge

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
36
Reaction score
0
Location
Rainycity
ughhh I have five....wtf.

People aren't looking at me after the first glance. And then it feels weird just looking at them while they stare ahead.

I'm starting to think my hi's are going to have to come from approaches (which I don't think I can get 50 in before sunday)...or should I just say hi to people who aren't even looking into my eyes? Does that even count?

I have flashed a few smiles to the rare guy or girl that does hold eye contact with me but I feel it's kind of like a tiny scared smile with a hint of friendliness, as opposed to a confident, "i'm a sexual being" smile.

Also, another thing: the fraternity that I just joined is having a gingerbread house competition on friday which requires a date to attend. There are several girls I know that I could ask, but I really want to maybe approach a HB on campus and set up a date with her.

Sigh...I have to man up
 

Mr. Bond

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 4, 2008
Messages
277
Reaction score
15
Location
Poundtown
I stopped counting after 50, but I had a few more. I didn't really meet anyone who caught my eye, but it always feels good to be friendly to everyone.

Today I decided I've never had a milf before, so I went to see a receptionist I'd met before and exchanged numbers with her. I'm fairly sure that one's in the bag, but you never know. For some reason this experience made me a little nervous for the first time in a couple months. Milfs are a new territory for me, but it seems like they're a little easier than girls in their 20's.

Feeling good about the next two nights. My f*ck buddy HB 6.5 is coming over tonight and tomorrow my primary target HB 9 is coming over for dinner at my place.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

Mr. Bond

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 4, 2008
Messages
277
Reaction score
15
Location
Poundtown
Neurosponge said:
ughhh I have five....wtf.

People aren't looking at me after the first glance. And then it feels weird just looking at them while they stare ahead.

I'm starting to think my hi's are going to have to come from approaches (which I don't think I can get 50 in before sunday)...or should I just say hi to people who aren't even looking into my eyes? Does that even count?

I have flashed a few smiles to the rare guy or girl that does hold eye contact with me but I feel it's kind of like a tiny scared smile with a hint of friendliness, as opposed to a confident, "i'm a sexual being" smile.

Also, another thing: the fraternity that I just joined is having a gingerbread house competition on friday which requires a date to attend. There are several girls I know that I could ask, but I really want to maybe approach a HB on campus and set up a date with her.

Sigh...I have to man up
Good job so far, and don't worry about it! It sounds like you're waiting too long to say hi. Just say hi on initial eye contact. Greet everyone. Who the **** cares what they think? They're strangers. You'll never see them again. Go out there and finish! You've got this.
 

jdbman11

Don Juan
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
3
Location
Tx
Mr. Bond said:
Good job so far, and don't worry about it! It sounds like you're waiting too long to say hi. Just say hi on initial eye contact. Greet everyone. Who the **** cares what they think? They're strangers. You'll never see them again. Go out there and finish! You've got this.
Well said. And Bond is probably right about the waiting thing. That's what I was doing. I was trying to hold EC for a little too long before saying Hi. It makes it awkward for the stranger and yourself. Like I mentioned before, try to catch their eye contact/vibe and try not to stare at them before they're looking at you. And when you guys meet eyes, smile, "hi!". Go get em bro. Remember it's all in good FUN.
 

TexMexEbbs

New Member
Joined
Dec 2, 2009
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
I'm def in. I've been working retail for a while, this first week is easy stuff. I'll go ahead and do it anyway, just to for ****s and grins.
 

Neurosponge

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
36
Reaction score
0
Location
Rainycity
Week 1 Day 4

16 his,

I'm having so many different convos with myself to gather up the balls to say hi but goddam, when I'm facing the person, I just freeze up. I've even got more positive responses than ignores, but I can't seem to get the ball rolling. It's starting to get really frustrating, not to mention adding to my stress level. It's making me put less time, effort, and care into the other aspects of my life (school, involvements, instrument, relaxing).

Jeez...

I'm going to step out of the library right now and NOT be afraid to make a fool out of myself...here goes

*************Update******************​


Make a fool out of myself....check

So now I have 34 hi's (with responses)! great!

Alluvasudden I just got the ball rolling and then had a string of like 10 his in a row, music to my ears.

At 33 I'm feeling pretty damn good and am walking along the sidwalk close to campus, and I hear a loud "Fvck!" and up ahead there's a group of afro-americans (guy and 2 girls fighting). The guy's really belligerent so I thought "hey, I'm gonna use my new found social skills and calm this dispute." As you can probably guess, I got punched the fvck out and saw my glasses fly into the street :box: . Had a good convo about it with the two older ladies that were staring down at me while I layed down on the ground, lol. I'm no stranger to doing stupid stuff (why I quit weed), and at the moment, I felt the irony of the whole situation and was mostly just laughing. Admittedly, though, I feel kinda crappy and tired now(especially since my head is aching and am going to have a shiner tomorrow).

Definitely a learning experience (don't fuk with belligerent semi-crazy people on the street....duh). God I'm an idiot. BUT...I didn't let that get me down and got one more hi in before calling it a night.
 
Last edited:

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Neurosponge

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
36
Reaction score
0
Location
Rainycity
jdbman11 said:
LOL!!!!! What the hell did you say to him?

God every minute that passes by I feel more and more like a fukin dumass...There's no way in hell i'm telling this story to my roomates or my friends haha.

Basically this guys is having a fight with his girl, and as he is taking off his shirt (probably another sign that I should have minded my own fukin busines) I'm like "hey man, let's all be cool" or somthing. He's like "fuk u, wat the fuk u talkin about be cool. I'll knock u the fuk out." I was like "naw man peace i'm not tryna fight or nothing" and I think the fatal mistake that I made was I stood still rather than keep walking, which allowed him to get up really close to me, make an aggressive lunge at me, then follow that up with a swing to the dome.

I literally picked the worst person within a mile + radius to have a conversation with. Phew next week is gonna be fun.

Seriously though, I'm worried this incident is going to justify my approach anxiety in a psychological classical conditioning way lol. On the bright side I'm never, ever, ever going to stick my nose where it doesn't belong again.
 

jdbman11

Don Juan
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
3
Location
Tx
****Week 2****

Good first week. Definitely had our ups and downs but it's all progress and improvement. I know there are a couple people without 50 Hi's right now, but we need to keep the ball rolling. This next week is where it really starts to get interesting.

Conversation skills! Listen, understand, and relate. The articles for this week are great.

One tip I have used when you can tell the conversation is getting dull, focus on an interesting word in their sentence and go off that. Changes the topic and catches them off gaurd which will bring life back to the convo.
IE:
me: Do you like living here?
stranger: Yeah I don't mind but my roomate hates it
me: Do you like having a roomate?

If you guys are interested check these out too...
http://www.sosuave.com/quick2/tip560.htm
http://www.sosuave.com/quick2/tip536.htm
http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip398.htm

EXERCISES for WEEK 2...
10 Conversations with absolute strangers. They don't necessarily have to be attractive women or even women at all. We just gotta' get out there and sharpen up our conversation skills. These convo's must be atleast 2-10 minutes. Good luck bro's. Report back and let everyone know how it goes... and don't forget the power of the SMILE!
 

Mr. Bond

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 4, 2008
Messages
277
Reaction score
15
Location
Poundtown
LOL Neurosponge. Great job with the Hi's. I knew you'd get better at this. As for your little experience, I think it taught you plenty. Don't get involved with strangers in their disputes or fights or whatever.

You know what? Your shiner will make this week's exercise easier. People will ask about it. Just smile and laugh, man. It's all you can do.
 

jdbman11

Don Juan
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
93
Reaction score
3
Location
Tx
This is a little harder than I expected. I'm having alot of trouble after the 30 second or so mark. I lose interest so quickly. All day I only had one conversation...

She was sitting at a table eating lunch in the breakroom. I thought she was attractive, but when I saw her closely, HB5. I simply just sat down right across from her and said "hey, how are you" .. she was almost in shock of my direct approach. We talked about work stuff for about 5 minutes and then her friend came and sat next to her. Then we all chatted for about 2 minutes. I then parted ways to go sit next to my closer friends for a little bit. But other than that, I'm having a really hard time holding a conversation on the fly. Awkwardness kills my confidence in a heartbeat
 

Mr. Bond

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 4, 2008
Messages
277
Reaction score
15
Location
Poundtown
Remember that this week is ANYONE. If you're having trouble with girls, start talking to a few guys. Then come back to the girls when you feel less awkward.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Top