Wingmen

[Don_Joffe]

Hey all, this is my 2nd post, you guys should go have a look in the "wingman forum" at my first post, you may find it to your benefit...or maybe not? My question I ask you all is this... My friends and I, we go play pool at a pool bar place atleast once a week but we never are able to meet woman there. About 4 of us go we all stand around our pool table, play pool, get a couple drinks, talk to eachother and say "hello" to the odd people we do know. I get frustrated with this continous pattern of week after week same old thing. I was wondering how is it possible to meet girls at these pool bar places? They also playing pool and they usually with other guy friends...Its very difficult to tell if these guy friends or guy friends or boyfriends. How can i approach these type of girls? What technique can I use to determine if they are single or not...its not cool IF i go over to the girls and their guy friends and I starting talking to the girl and the guys are looking at me as though ive got a DEATH wish talking 2 her, how can i tell if they single and whats the best way to approach these woman(if they are single). Thanks...

 

[Fenderules]

you never now unless you do it. It as least shows the girl you got freaking bulls if thats her bf. Just make sure you have some buddies around cause some guys will freak out and take it really bad (maby they have had 2 much to drink) and are insecure so they have to prove themselves of being a "man" by giving you ****, so i woul dnot do it alone just in case that happens

 

[Don_Joffe]

Fenderules: You are also 18, where are u from? You seem to have some idea of what you are talking about, however, its not worth getting into a fight , is it? And if I do go up to these girls, What do i say 2 them? Do i say "do u want to play a game of pool" because they already got GUY friends to play pool with, right? So whats the best conversation i can use to meet these woman without coming across as someone that just wants to be their friend? Thanks...

 

[Fenderules]

yeah i havent happened to me first on where i guy starts **** but i'v seen it happen at bars and clubs like a couple nights ago one guy was dancing with a chick, (who he dosnt even know) and another guy approaches and takes the attention away from the other guy. Well that guy freaks out and gets his buddy over and they start threatening him so the other guy being very small and scrawny runs away. The chicks also takes off so the guys gets mad and followes the small guy. the bounvers eventually kicked him out for causing ****.

i'll post more in a sec

 

[Fenderules]

to start a convo??? hmmm you could haver her "accidentally" bump her pool cue into you or something.

I dunno challenge her to a game or something

I'v never gone up girl playing pool with her buddies since i never go to bars. I go to clubs more.

 

[Don_Joffe]

How many girls have u been with? You see thats why i posted this thread because going up to girls at clubs is different, you dancing, you say hi and smile, she will give u the cue if she wants to kiss you or not ... im sure you can tell those things, a smile back? she'll ask you for your name? you;ll make short convo? she may start touching you whilst dancing? get my drift... and alot of the times the girl is not sober in the club so its easier... and if she had a boyfriend she'd probably be dancing WITH him. When a girl is playing pool however , its very hard to tell, or if she is at the bar, because her boyfriend could be playing pool whilst she is getting the drinks? Understand? Also, when playing pool in this particular pool bar, the music isnt loud, so whatever you say to the woman, a) My friends will hear( my friends are the type that critize me if i dont "play" the girl and "get" the girl b) If she gives me the cold shoulder, my friends and her friends will know c) since the music is soft and if rejection occurs, everyone will know whereas in a club, no1 knows, so, FIND NEXT? I think challenging the girl is the best way to do it, so you can see if she is talking to her "guy" friend or boyfriend and then you can take it from their and work your communication skills in...what do you think? Thanks...

 

[Fenderules]

DONT BOTHER TELLING

just assume it is her friend and nothing more. assume she will think your hot if you talk to her. Even if he is her bf chances of him being an afc or very great so dont worry about.

I would compliment her on her game is she is decent. If she sux offer to teach her something (if your good at pool) or if she is better then you ask about something she did to show you how to do it like a trick shot. Thats the icebreaker.

If you both are really good, you could try playing like you suck and then when she shows you the trick (you already know how to do) you can impress her cause she "taught" you so well you are able to pull the trick of right then and there!

 

[Fenderules]

there is a differnce between hard to get and cold shoulder. if she is playing hard to get so wont give you a cold shove but rather a "warm" shove. She could also have the ***** shield up. By making yourself vulnerable (aking to show you something) her shield will start to go down.

 

[Don_Joffe]

Nice ideas... "teaching" eachother a thing or two in a game of pool, is what any AFC would do, think about it...thats the boring approach. Rather, ask her to join you for a drink so you can get to know eachother better after the game.. thats better. A) its getting her alone B) the amount of flirting that can be achieved in that space of time is endless C) if she does have a boyfriend, he will get jealous.. causing the girl to actually have even MORE attraction to you. Good idea or not?

 

[Fenderules]

yeah.



but in a sense i dont think its not really that afcish to ask....especially a woman. If you do it in a confident way, then go over and have a drink.



or yeah flat out cold approach




your ideas seem good. try'm

 

[Fenderules]

personally i'd just prolly go up 2 her and invite her. I dont like ****ing around with games. Maby say something C&F about her and perhaps neg-hit if shes hot.

 

[Don_Joffe]

Thanks man, i appreciate the inspriation. I mean helping a girl play pool is what any CHIPMUNK of a guy would think to do? But to actually ask her to join you for a drink, hell, she may even END up buying you a drink? So you also investing in yourself in this situation and even if that is her boyfriend and she likes him very much , the conversation that can be had during your 10 minute drink is great because you can get her number and when she and her boyfriend end, she wont forget the CONFIDENT, CHARMING guy. Just a tip for you, if u do manage to get the girl to join you for a drink, touch her! gentle touches, the boyfriend wont be there, so no fight Just be careful not to push her and if she is single, bro, she is all yours... Any other comments...?

 

[Fenderules]

yea no problem. and how many chumps would ask a girl to help them? i'v never seen it done ever. it will throw her off guard

 

[Fenderules]

you got a plan!

 

[Don_Joffe]

okay okay, i think your persistance with this idea must have some value to it, maybe if the girl HELPS you OUT then thats okay it will throw her off guard and think of you as "different" to other guys but DONT and i repeat DONT offer YOUR help as this is common thing guys tend to do, and common is not your goal, you want to be different, you want to give her something to think about. Now, besdies for the girl helping you out play pool and going for a drink at the bar... Im 18 years old now, is it okay for myself to date 15 year old girls or is that too young? Some say 3 years differnt is the limit, some dont? Whats your take on this?

 

[Don_Joffe]

Ya, im sure that plan would work. Is their anyone else that can give an opinion on this situation and is their also someone that can give me a "G0" for the 15 year old and 18 year old situation, fenderules..care to give your opinion and anyone else? Thanks...

 

[varius]

Hi. I'm not a DJ... yet But I have idea... if you're good as she or better in pool... you should play on the table next to hers, look for hers game, and when she pull out nice shot say something like "Hey, it's the world class" or world champion in some C+F way than say something like "Hmm... I could use you as an opponent, it would be nice game... I challange you:]! Do you have enough courage to play with me?"

Just an idea that showed up in my head...