"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Wingmen: friend or foe?

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Usually when im out with a certain friend and there's girls around, he'll be like "hey, lets go talk to those girls over there", so i figure, cool, i dont have to worry about an opener or awkward silences. Unfortunately my friend is very talkative and im relatively anti-social. When we're talking to the girls I find myself brainstorming for something funny, intresting, or just anything to say, but usually coming up with nothing.

Does anyone else share this problem?

Do you just 'go with the flow` and comment here and there? or do you have pre-planned 'funny' stories and/or questions?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Skilla_Staz

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Wingmen are always "friends" in my eyes. If they're stepping up to the plate, you've got to up your game. I recommend approaching groups of girls, instead of singles, and picking out one or two to carry on a conversation with, let your friend deal with the others.
 

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Sounds you don't feel comfortable in those kinds of situations. If you did, I bet you'd find that you'd be a much better conversationist. Read up on some inner game stuff in the DJ Bible (mind you, I'm pretty sure the link at the bottom of the page is temporarily down, but there's a thread in the DJD forum that you can view the Bible from).
 

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The wing isn't the issue really. It's just that you're not great at conversation yet. Work on that and then you'll find the wing will be an asset. You'll get a good multiway conversation going with the girls and they'll dig you. There's something about 2-3 girls being approached by two guys that just works. I guess because it seems like two buddies who were out on their own just ran into them. Just seems so natural. They just hang out for the night with the two cool guys they met and by the end good things for the future are shaping up.
 

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Wingman with better game: foe.
Wingman with less game: friend.
Wingman with equal game: the best.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Patrick124 said:
Wingman with better game: foe.
Wingman with less game: friend.
Wingman with equal game: the best.
True.

I had a clingy bastard follow me into a library, opened up to two chicks, last year, hb 7, hb 6, played good verbal, initiated kino, and stole hb 7's pen. I was taking it as a prop to initiate a number close, as she'd have to follow me to get the pen back, and I'd just ask for number. Well clingy **** is like, "That is mean." and goes and returns said item before she can make it to me. People who are aware of what you're trying to do, and not coniving guys are your teammates.
 

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Ah the good old fashioned C*ckBlock
 

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When a c*ck block comes rollin in, I usually close it and hit her up later. If I know her, I simply tell her I've got to go, tell her to come with me, or tell her good luck lol.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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