"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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The answer is short and sweet...

You don't fully learn the subject, until you teach it!!!


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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Well, I guess a true Don Juan would also care to help others (to an extent).
 

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no... a TRUE Don Juan doesnt care...

a TRUE Don Juan will lie through his teeth to sleep with anything in his path, and his good at it.. he can say that his a doctor when his not, he can say he has lots of money when he doesnt... he can adjust to all women, he dont care married or not, disabled or not... he lais em all... and he would not care about the AFC... all he would care about is f.cking his girl...

truth hurts...
 

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TruthHurts said:
The answer is short and sweet...

You don't fully learn the subject, until you teach it!!!


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For the same reason Jesus was nailed to a cross ... Validation through attention.
 

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TruthHurts said:
no... a TRUE Don Juan doesnt care...

a TRUE Don Juan will lie through his teeth to sleep with anything in his path, and his good at it.. he can say that his a doctor when his not, he can say he has lots of money when he doesnt... he can adjust to all women, he dont care married or not, disabled or not... he lais em all... and he would not care about the AFC... all he would care about is f.cking his girl...

truth hurts...
You described a PUA, not a DJ.

A PUA just wants to **** because he doesn't love women; he just loves sex. (Who doesn't?)

A DJ wants to seduce women because he loves women and truly likes being with them; he loves sex as much as the PUA, but his primary motivation isn't just to have as much random sex as possible, it's to have sex with women he's truly attracted to, and not only physically. (Though a DJ will also have random sex just because it's fun.)

However, just the fact that you posted this is a pretty good proof that this website's focus has changed since the last time I posted regularly. It used to be about guys who wanted to seduce women; now it seems to be about just getting your little d**k into as many holes as possible, no matter how low-quality those women are.

To each their own, I guess.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Docs said:
Oddly enough, if a Don Juan is being described as a PUA, making the two terms interchangable, what am I?
I haven't seen you in the field so I don't know yet. :p

Seriously though, it seems the difference has been lost while I was away, and to be honest it's driving me away from this site again.

A DJ seeks self-improvement and women are part of that; they compliment his search to improve his personality and his life. His validation is doing what he likes and what he wants to do. If he has a girlfriend, that's great. If he doesn't, he just enjoys the bachelor life.

A PUA dedicates himself so picking up women and having sex with them, or getting them into MLTRs and whatnot. Their interest is not to have a better life; they just want to fill a void in their soul (subconscious, or whatever you want to call it) with women and sex. Their sole source of validation is the women they pick up, and the guys they brag to about the women they pick up. I hate to revert to a book, but Neil Strauss pretty much nailed it in his book... PUAs who don't already have a fulfilling life (ie, who hate their life and just pick up women to fill a void) tend to become social robots. They can pick up women and sleep with them, but they can never have relationships with those women, or even with their male "friends."

To make it into a nice little sentence: A DJ wants women to compliment his life; a PUA wants women to be his life.
 

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Sorry big man, I'm tired and hurting so I'm going to head to bed really early tonight. I'm up for clubbing/bar hopping/general pick-uping Friday night, though. (But not Saturday, I'm on duty.)
 

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LJC said:
truth is that the clueless don't know what good advice is. If they did, they wouldn't be so clueless.
that is the conclusion i have come to recently...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Friday night is only the day everyone gets paid, which means everyone will be ordering out, thus that means money.

Maybe after work though, give me a holla.

Duty, balls. I do ammo driver Saturday, :mad:
 

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Jon55 said:
Well, I guess a true Don Juan would also care to help others (to an extent).
He would create competition? :eek:
 

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Don Juan was a studier of women. He would be here researching his game.

Or spamming us about his new seduction seminars and e-books.

While suing us for using his name.
 

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TruthHurts said:
no... a TRUE Don Juan doesnt care...

a TRUE Don Juan will lie through his teeth to sleep with anything in his path, and his good at it.. he can say that his a doctor when his not, he can say he has lots of money when he doesnt... he can adjust to all women, he dont care married or not, disabled or not... he lais em all... and he would not care about the AFC... all he would care about is f.cking his girl...

truth hurts...

Nah lying is not my style. My stats are excellent and I never had to lie to no girl to fvck them. I tell them straight up. Lying just shows fear and insecurity.


After reading some of your posts you act like your a seduction master? Out of curiosity (no flame intended) how many girls have you banged???? Because the way your posting it better be close to or over triple digits.
 
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In modern day terminology - "Don Juan" was a pimp - no emotional ties!!! No one here is a true Don Juan - too emotional for that! I think Player_Supreme was the only one here who was a true Don Juan at one time in his life!!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I think a real Don Juan posts here to keep his views fresh... If you always talk about something it'll be fresh in your mind. That way u can continue learning and working on yourself. Gradually becoming a Don Juan
 

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loco2chon said:
I think a real Don Juan posts here to keep his views fresh... If you always talk about something it'll be fresh in your mind. That way u can continue learning and working on yourself. Gradually becoming a Don Juan

Excellent post. I agree with this 100%. I post here because of this and for motivation.
 

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TruthHurts, what I really want to know is why you have 48.17 posts per day?

Unless you are chained to your bed or physically paralyzed with no where to go, I really suggest you stop posting occasionally and go outside. It may be hard to fathom, but there is really a world outside of the computer.
 

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What I really want to know is why you have 48.17 posts per day?

Unless you are chained to your bed or physically paralyzed with no where to go, I really suggest you stop posting occasionally and go outside. It may be hard to fathom, but there is really a world outside of the computer.
I took a typing class back in highschool, in fact the best class i ever took, i type over 80 words a minute.. its takes me seconds to put up a post, and I think faster then i can speak or type.. (it is also why i dont bother to check grammer or spelling, just flowing)... right now I dont have a job, i saved money, I am partying... Here is what i did today... Woke up, played xbox360 and warcraft III, ate, then went to boxing gym, afterwords busted some game, talked to like 4 random girls, one is potential.. then went to poker game, won $175 dollars, got a little buzzed, then was going to hit up this bar, but was too buzzed and got some recently, and parents comming tomorrow, so need to clean up place.. Note, not a single day goes by that I dont throw some vibe at a girl...

also, keep in mind after being banned, havent had an outlet :) lol yo, while i was sarging, some of the things we talked about here were popping up in my head...
 

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truth hurts, i don't get this. answer this

if this site has the answer that will increase a guy's success with women, why then would not majority of these guys be outside of the forum getting laid?

why is most of the threads on this forums about some guy crying over how he's NOT having success with women? if this forum was great, why aren't most of these guys having success?

I'm confused. :confused:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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