Why Women Over 40 Suddenly Want Average Men: It's Not What You Think

[MatureDJ]

 

[BadBoy89]

The video assumes men are stupid.

Women over 40 have no leverage. Heck, over 30 they are crashing and burning. Women over 40 have to attach to some male, almost any average male they can find, because they have no other options. It's like if you are hungry, and don't have the money for good food, you are going to settle for McDonalds.

I don't understand how women, with how Intune they are to men's desires and wants and needs, don't understand that their YOUTH is their currency.

 

[MatureDJ]

I'm 48 and really want nothing to do with women 40 and over.

12 to 20 years younger is ideal

I'm (a very youthful looking) 60, and my ideal woman's age is 30.

 

[Westminster]

I actually think that video is pretty good. OK, it's not telling us anything we don't already know, but it's still helpful to see (and hear) a clear and largely accurate summary of how the dating market and power dynamics change over time.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The video assumes men are stupid

Many of us ARE

 

[The Duke]

The video assumes men are stupid.

Women over 40 have no leverage. Heck, over 30 they are crashing and burning. Women over 40 have to attach to some male, almost any average male they can find, because they have no other options. It's like if you are hungry, and don't have the money for good food, you are going to settle for McDonalds.

I don't understand how women, with how Intune they are to men's desires and wants and needs, don't understand that their YOUTH is their currency.

I think they do understand its their currency, however most don't understand it is a currency that loses value over time. They are too emotional and in the moment with their feelings to develop such wisdom that would allow them to understand things like this.

Only old women have any wisdom to offer. My mom and I were talking about women one day. She asked me what modern women have to offer other than their beauty. I told her most of them didn't offer much other than that. Then she asked, how does one expect to keep a man when her beauty fades?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

When women are young, they feel a massive sense of opportunity, due to all the massive attention they get, so they naturally go for the best possible dude they can get.

The opportunity costs (all the attention they get in real life and online) are huge for "settling," so they keep looking, thinking they can find Mr. Perfect.

The older they get, the less likely this seems, which corresponds with less attention from males.

Soon they become desperate and are stuck choosing from within a pool of men that are willing to date a 40 something women. Not guys in the top of their league.

Therefore, men who are used to getting passed over are now getting attention.

I don't understand why it takes a 20-minute video to explain this.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Then she asked, how does one expect to keep a man when her beauty fades?

wife goggles... most effective when the husband meets the wife when she is at her most attractive and when other men chase her, but she still chooses her marry the husband. Even more effective if at the time of marriage the husband has yet to be successful.

God made the average woman hot in her youth in order so she can trap a man, not sleep arround with chad... OR be buried at some corporation wasting her fertility away.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

When women are young, they feel a massive sense of opportunity, due to all the massive attention they get, so they naturally go for the best possible dude they can get.

The opportunity costs (all the attention they get in real life and online) are huge for "settling," so they keep looking, thinking they can find Mr. Perfect.

The older they get, the less likely this seems, which corresponds with less attention from males.

Soon they become desperate and are stuck choosing from within a pool of men that are willing to date a 40 something women. Not guys in the top of their league.

Therefore, men who are used to getting passed over are now getting attention.

I don't understand why it takes a 20-minute video to explain this.

No, they don't become desperate they become delusional.

 

[DJ Novice]

Most older women become institutionalised on dating apps. They have delusional expectations and reject guys who probably would be a good match for them in the hope of landing Prince Charming who either doesn’t exist or who is not interested in her other than for pump and dump reasons.

I’m no Chad (I rate myself a 7/10 on a good day) but many of the women I’ve been rejected by barely scrape into the 7/10 category.

Some women are on dating apps for years.

The only guys getting lots of attention on dating apps are the top 10-20% and this includes older women. Older women have even higher expectations than younger women as they often carry a lot more baggage. I’m 58 so I have some experience here having dated women aged 45+.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Most older women become institutionalised on dating apps. They have delusional expectations and reject guys who probably would be a good match for them in the hope of landing Prince Charming who either doesn’t exist or who is not interested in her other than for pump and dump reasons.

I’m no Chad (I rate myself a 7/10 on a good day) but many of the women I’ve been rejected by barely scrape into the 7/10 category.

Some women are on dating apps for years.

The only guys getting lots of attention on dating apps are the top 10-20% and this includes older women. Older women have even higher expectations than younger women as they often carry a lot more baggage. I’m 58 so I have some experience here having dated women aged 45+.

Dating apps... also known by its manosphere name, "cvck carousel" - where average women get their backs blown out by chads.

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

The video is not news. I think sensible young women (they exist, I promise) realize beauty is fleeting, and know that over time their real value is in the quality of the companionship they offer to a man. If the couple wants children then a good mother for the kids is also extremely important. That's the real value.

Besides, no matter how hot a woman is, there will always be another woman who is younger & hotter. And a man is always going to calibrate to a woman's beauty. Over time he gets accustomed to it, and a girl must offer MORE than looks. Strange (novelty) has a strong pull for a man that never goes completely away.

Smart women who are happily married know this. They partner with and build lives with their husbands. They are lovers, friends, advocates, supporters, counselors and defenders. They are good mothers. They nurture & they call out the crap too. They are deeply invested in one another in the marriage.

But the happily marrieds are not in the singles market, so the older women get (and men too, let's be fair) the higher the liklihood that she is single For A Reason, and so the market is biased toward more damaged people at least until the husbands are dying off, and then women are back on the market (although many widows never remarry, often by choice).

It is also wise for women to maintain their appearance and sexual allure as they age. For health reasons, for self assurance reasons, to maintain healthy intimacy with her man, etc.

If you have a daughter, teach her how to be a great companion for a man. Its a great value add.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Advice from the old lady:

If you have a daughter, teach her how to be a great companion for a man. Its a great value add.

In general, dads need to teach their daughters how to make a sandwich. after a stressful day of work, a sandwich is always appreciated

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

The problem many older women still have is that they still have decent guy willing to bang them and they consider such desire to bang them as a desire to see them worth of commitment.

They simply fail to realize that unlike for them someone nothing special is worth of sex as long as it doesnt require too much work.

They think men behave like women were criteria for sex are as high as criteria for relationships.

 

[Manure Spherian]

If a man is over 40 and he is still trying to crack the female attraction code, he did something wrong or something went wrong for him.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I don't understand how women, with how Intune they are to men's desires and wants and needs, don't understand that their YOUTH is their currency.

It's a type of procrastination. They know that youth is their currency but they lack the discipline and willpower to capitalize on it. If you are a hot woman in her early or mid-20's living in a big city, you have a very real opportunity to meet and ultimately marry a seriously successful guy. There are nearly 25 million millionaires in America. But that would require discipline and social intelligence and most modern women lack both. So what do most young women do? They waste their golden years doing stupid sh!t and see their options dwindle in quality and quality with every passing year.

 

[Slowhandluke]

It's a type of procrastination. They know that youth is their currency but they lack the discipline and willpower to capitalize on it. If you are a hot woman in her early or mid-20's living in a big city, you have a very real opportunity to meet and ultimately marry a seriously successful guy. There are nearly 25 million millionaires in America. But that would require discipline and social intelligence and most modern women lack both. So what do most young women do? They waste their golden years doing stupid sh!t and see their options dwindle in quality and quality with every passing year.

Bad parenting is the issue. Dad's didn't teach their daughters how to act correctly. They didn't tell their daughters to "go make a sandwich" often enough. instead, they either treated their daughters as "little princesses" or expected their daughters to be "girl bosses". What did society expect when these girls grew up? Basically, treating daughters as "girl bosses" is basically telling them to act like men. Other men just dont want to marry or deal with these type of women. Society needs to change a bit.

It has to be normalized that dad's show their daughters they arent a unique butterfly or that they can rule the world (some can, but most will not). Ruling the world is the domain of men. Dad's need to explain to young girls that they have the gift of beauty (ephemeral) and they have the ability to be good companions to men. They also have the unique ability to bring life into the world.

the more I think about this is, the more I think how Dad's have been brainwashed to think that their daughter is so special.. that she is more than a female... more than the average girl. Dad's dont treat their sons like that. Dad's are honest with their sons, dad's dont tell their sons that they are unique, a special snow flake. Good dad's tell their sons that life can be tough and for them to fight it out.

No dad wants to tell his daughter that her main job is to be a good companion to a guy. to form a union with a guy. It goes against western thinking. More likely than not, most dad's are brainwashed to tell their daughters to be "girl bosses".

 

[Manure Spherian]

No dad wants to tell his daughter that her main job is to be a good companion to a guy.

Shouldn't some posters here be thankful for this? If dads did train their daughters correctly for all this time, there would be few chances for "recreational use". From the way I see it, most men here do not want to marry, if any. So why should they give a **** that women weren't trained to be loyal wives or competent mothers? Hardly anyone here even wants to cohabitate with women.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Shouldn't some posters here be thankful for this? If dads did train their daughters correctly for all this time, there would be few chances for "recreational use". From the way I see it, most men here do not want to marry, if any. So why should they give a **** that women weren't trained to be loyal wives or competent mothers? Hardly anyone here even wants to cohabitate with women.

It's the chicken vs egg problem. Who here wouldn't want a woman who is submissive, loyal and takes care of herself? A lot of men now don't want women because woman are no longer "women", but harpies, "girl bosses", "rude", etc.... If more women are "women", men would line up to wife them up. Look at the passport bros.

Men control the world. If men thought being Amish is "cool", "the way to go", etc... etc. We would all become Amish. It wouldn't matter what women think because ultimately the group of people who have control is MEN. Women can yell, "I am woman, hear me roar!!!". Doesn't matter, women wouldn't last a month if the majority of men decided to take control. Think about it. There are "girl bosses"... But who are the bosses' of the "girl bosses". Mostly old dudes.. If the old dudes decided they rather hire women, there will be less "girl bosses".... Look at all the politicians -- most of them also men. The feminist were right. We do live in the patriarchy. Men will have to "right this ship"... I'm sure they will.

 

[justaroundthecorner]

I do not think there is any reason for educated, attractive female with a good job to be submissive towards uneducated, mildly attractive guy with average job - yet some women still decide to enter such relationships because sex and romance.

I think a lot of guys overestimate their value due to how male ego work - still attractive female wants attractive guy, preferably with assets, but the best is the "full package guy" - and any 6/10 or even 5/10 or less females try to get a shot on such a guy and sometimes it works (who doesn't know a couple where woman is unattractive but the guy is). Women know that it is easy to use sex (and female allure) as a weapon - guys do favours, compliment women, fuel their self-esteem for free every day - notice how much low tier guys compliment models or pretty girls online hoping for any reaction which is somewhat of a beggar's attitude.

There is no reason for females to be submissive nowadays - and I think that I will add "thankfully". When you are father of a daughter you want the best for her - ideal partner, well educated, good earner, handsome, intelligent guy, preferably blue or purple pill. You do not want any PUA or loser around her. If you invested a lot in her, you do not want a simpleton or uneducated guy with no money around her either and this does not change per your personal experience - life is no fairy tale and your family and its future comes first - dreams of young horny guys or middle aged/old guys dreaming about young attractive woman in their bed are irrelevant.

I have an ugly friend - great guy but his face is like 3/10 and dude always looked old. His Tinder still gave him matches with (imho) 4/10 or 5/10 chicks - I asked him why he does not want to date these women - because he doesnt really consider them attractive - he said - I didnt want to be blunt but if I was a woman and I would need to wake up everyday looking at the face of my buddy in bed I would REALLY need to have every other need in relationship in check to accept this fact - so its not that some women do not concede on male attractiveness - tbh almost all of them do because young prince was snatched early by her more attractive girlfriend in college - once you hit +35 as a guy you start to leverage/boost your chances - either by career you have, money you earned or obtained otherwise, car or perhaps house - the love which is only about the other person qualities (looks&personality) happens earlier - when you are 16, 18, perhaps 20 or 21. Later on its more and more about exchange of perspectives for the future and period of 22-28 are "transformation" years for women.

Its not that women are not able to be submissive - there is just much more reasons nowadays for men to be doormats for women rather than for women to be submissive to men (because men do not have the luxury of being weak as they usually do not have the gift of being an attractive woman which for sure is worth a lot in superficial world full of dumb social media around us - simultaneously men gave up values or qualities that made some of their fathers real men - integrity, courage, ability to withstand pain - either physical or emotional - men nowadays are weak and do not understand themselves so how can they understand women).